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You said earlier they are 10 deep.
If you can't understand the difference between the ideal playing rotation and the depth of a team, you shouldn't be trying to discuss basketball.
Stick to Detroit politics. That poster just agreed with me.
You're an idiot. Gauna and Costello would definitely be in the every day rotation for at least half the teams in the B1G. They don't see those minutes here because Payne and Nix are two of the best bigs in the conference. That doesn't mean the team can't go 10 deep if they have to due to injuries/foul trouble, it just means they don't have to very often.
I know, I will admit that saying Costello and Byrd are a part of the rotation is stretching it a bit when we're at full strength. So I'll say it's an 8 man rotation, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, if we're in a position where Costello and/or Byrd have to give us a few minutes off the bench, I'm not going to panic. They both defend and play hard. Byrd just needs to knock down a 3 once every 20 attempts or so.
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"RCMB: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry." - some dude from MgoBlog
The conversation is not about half the teams in the big ten. It's about winning a national championship.
I love this team too. And I love the OPs unbridled enthusiasm. Hematoma, might you have been working on a great buzz at the time of your post as well?
If not, still a good post.
Pardon the BTN reference. . . but I am very much enjoying this team's journey.
The team that played in Germany a few months ago is nothing like the team that has been taking the court in the B1G. As usual Tom has brought this team along superbly, and he has used all sorts of interesting combinations because of the injuries.
The three freshmen Harris, Valentine, and Costello are works in progress, but are extraordinary players and are making vital contributions. I know DS was really lit about some of Valentine's play last night, but the kid was playing B1G point guard for long minutes as both Appling and Harris were in foul trouble. Harris is obviously special, and Costello is getting minutes learning how to grind. . . an ugly but necessary component to championship basketball. . . . and I love watching the growth.
The BIGs keep us in every game. Even when our outside shooters are having an off night. . . the ball starts going down low. . . some opposition have one strong BIG to stop Nix. . . then Tom goes high-low with Payne, and our opposition tries to match both BIGs, and then Dawson has all sorts of lanes to the basket open up for him. . . and who doesn't love watching Tom playing his pieces.
Captain Keith has shown he deserves to be Captain Keith.
I admit I'm still hoping for Byrd to find his place on the court and shot. . . I'd like to see Trice be healthy and a little more confident as a ball handler. . . I'd like to see Gauna find a solid role whatever it may be. . . but I've enjoyed this team this year a lot.
Yep. The utter nerve of MSU fans thinking this could happen this year. We could, and should, be in the top 5 by the end of next week and in great shape for a #1 seed. Name one team in America that you think the Spartans couldn't beat on a neutral floor.
We may not have the perfect team, but we're well built for a deep run in March. We have bigs and good guard play. We're in the top 20 in the country in both defense and offensive efficiency. We have a clutch performer in Keith Appling. We crash the glass and play physical, which favors us in the tournament since the refs let more stuff go. Yes, we still turn the ball over a little too much and health has been a concern. But who are all these teams out there that we will play who don't have any flaws? There aren't any dominant teams out there, just a handful of good ones.
You mean the third and fourth big men on the depth chart aren't All-Americans? You're right, this team is doomed.
Most teams don't have the level of quality depth that MSU does in the frontcourt. It's a serious strength to have B1G-starter quality players that far down the bench. Most teams also don't have two or three guys who can play multiple positions effectively, particularly on defense. Those two factors combine to create a very resilient team, which is a great quality to have going into the tournament. I'm not guaranteeing a national championship, but I think this team has as good a chance as any Spartan team in recent history.
Byrd would shut down Durant.
The early season loss to Miami (probably the best team I've seen) could turn out to be a big advantage for us should we meet them down the road on a neutral court.
Gauna would not be in a starting rotation in the big ten. This post was absurd.
Don't let vb bother you.
In Gauna's limited minutes this year, he has played very smart basketball and he has scored well in the intermediate game. He might not start, but he would come off the bench to the tune of 15+ minutes per game for most of the lower half of the B1G.
He may be showing signs of a basketball iq lately, but he was miserable for the first couple months. And my response was in regards to your statement that he would be STARTING..............not coming off the bench.
I've had the same screen name since I joined the board. How many have you had ?
Already posted this in the game thread, but it's apropos of your sentiments, as well. From ESPN's NCAAB blogger:
Michigan State finally looks like a Tom Izzo team. Road wins are scarce, even among the top 25. So the Spartans’ 78-65 victory at Purdue wasn’t insignificant. But Michigan State was tough in a hostile venue. And it held on. When I saw MSU in Minneapolis on Dec. 31, the Spartans just didn’t display the toughness that I’d witnessed with past Izzo teams. They just weren’t feisty enough. I had my doubts. But they’ve matured. The veterans have stepped up. And they’re playing the physical style that’s fueled past success within the program. With that attitude, these Spartans can win the Big Ten championship.
Dont change the channel. Ever. In this sport, one last-minute switch could cost you. You might miss something epic, monumental. A classic. I
Thank you, Denicos.
Appling isn't, or at least hasn't been, the vocal leader that Cleaves was, but he's gotta be right at the top of the list of guys you want taking the last shot for your team. He's cold-blooded, and he's really good at finding space to get a shot off. This team might not have that obvious leader, but I'm not worried about not having someone to carry the team to big things.
Appling can knock down the final shot. cold blooded all day.
"You make sure when you come, you got a little blood in your eye, a little blood in your eye, a little fire in your belly. We there yet?"
This team leads by committee, and that is why we are seeing a different guy stepping up every single game. We are a match-up nightmare for any coach this year. And not only that, but our coach is better than any coach out there. This team is fucking legit. We could win it all this year!! It's wide-open out there. We are 20-4 (9-2 1st). We bring it night in and night out. The scary thing is we haven't played up to our potential yet. We are only getting better. We keep grinding out wins game in and game out. We can play any style of play. Slow, fast, it doesn't matter. We are tougher than you. We're just better than you. I think Tuesday night, we will finally play a complete 40 minutes. Byrd will even hit a big shot that will send the breslin in a frenzy!! Make sure you DVR the game, because you'll likely want to watch it again. GO GREEN! kill blue.
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