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Addition by subtraction?
I would have to think that it does. If you're Glenn Robinson III or McGary, and you're projected to go in the first round, why would you come back when you're stock is only going to fall?
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Have you always been this unwitty?
Where were those posters? We ran our offense through Nix this year. Going to have to make some big changes going forward. Our offense kind of stunk it up at times this year though, so maybe changes were needed regardless.
Nix could score with his back to the basket. I don;t think people realize how hard that is to find at the college level. Payne doesn't have the same ability down low yet, but he certainly has the potential.
This post was edited by Johnny2x2x 12 months ago
There was a thread last week, although since there wasn't anything about um players, you may not have read it.
Nice, some can always find a way to turn a thread into a bash MSU fans chorus.
I think people would figure it out after the deadline passed. Or simply a statement from the SID.
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I laughed so hard.
You know, big picture, I'm not sure how much it hurt Summers. He wasn't projecting as a first rounder, so it's unlikely he would have gotten a guaranteed deal.
Given what we know about his skill set, I'm not sure how long he hangs around the NBA if he leaves after his junior year. Likely, he ends up in the D-league where he is now after having a cup of coffee with the Bobcats a couple of years ago.
He's averaging 16 ppg in the D-league this year, so he may get another shot. According to this story: http://www.ballinmichigan.com/2012/11/16/durrell-summers-plans-to-show-all-around-game-in-d-league/ he's still working on his degree, but he's probably much further along and has a better shot at completing it than he would have had he not stayed another year.
Taking the long view, he may still get to the point where he's good enough to stick for awhile in the NBA, but I'm not sure it would have gone any differently for him had he left early, except his post-basketball life may have been rougher.
At least Summers would have been drafted if he would have left after his junior year.
at anybody doesn't realize this is good news
sure, he was pretty bad against us, but this team could have put a run together at a Big Ten Title with Robinson, McGary, and Hardaway all back. If just one of those three goes, do they still contend for a Big Ten Title? Highly doubtful.
Right, but the point of my post was, big picture, I'm not sure it makes a difference. If he gets picked 2nd round (where most projected him after his junior year, even with the good tourney run), he wouldn't have had a guaranteed deal. Given where his game actually was at that point, I doubt he sticks around long at that point.
He's had time in the D-league and made the Bobcats briefly, so he's gotten a look...my point is that he's probably about in the same spot he would have been in, only much further along towards a degree, and still with a shot to stick in the NBA for awhile if he keeps improving. Getting to the league for a week or a month will get you a little cash, but I doubt that's what he's shooting for. Who knows, maybe getting picked in the 2nd round and quickly cut would have set him back further.
Bottom-line, without that guaranteed first round money, getting drafted doesn't mean a lot. If you're not there skills-wise, you're not there. I hope he gets a shot, from that link I posted, he's working hard for it. Maybe he'll be another Bell or AA story, with an NBA act that came some time after their college days.
I don't think even the tough guys ("Damn, I wish he would have come back so we could have shut him down again!") really believe what they're posting. Everyone realizes this is a good thing for every other team in the B10.
Getting out while he can. YESSSS!!!!
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So what's your username on mgoblog?
This is a really strong post, and I tend to feel the same way about Summers. So he would have been the 40th pick or so in 2010, he'd probably still be in the D-league right now.
Now...GRIII and Gramps McGump....COME ON DOWN!!!!
As much as I have made fun of THJ for his horrible shot selection, and the obsession the cameras have with his Dad, him staying would have definitely helped Michigan.
Well, seeing as he was on the court when we beat them by almost 30 points...
He also averaged about 15 points. I mean, the guy isn't a great player or anything, but he sure as hell would have helped UM this year.
I'd say it's more of a desire to see them struggle as much as humanly possible than it is "intimidation"...
More concerned about who we get back than who they lose. At this point, if Payne and Harris come back, we'd be the heavy favorite in the B1G, regardless of who Michigan loses.
Just happened today. Top 5 pick marcus smart announced he was staying at a presser. It happens way more than you think.
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