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1.) Supply and demand. There are more than enough bars in EL, just not many good ones.
2.) This is such a misconception. Name one applicant for a liquor license in the last 20 years to be turned down.
That sounds great. Best of both worlds.
That's because bars try to get different markets of customers, but Hopcat and Harpers are in similar markets, much more so than The Riv, PTs or Ricks.
What do you know about East Lansing bars anyway? Back off, buddy.
All i care about are waitresses dressed like whores (like flying saucer)... Do they have those?
Crunchys list isn't as large, but they rotate their selection a lot, often doing brewers nights with a full selection of a local Michigan microbrew, they are definitely the place to go for good brews in EL right now. Hopcat won't effect them though because the atmospheres will be completely different, and Crunchys regulars are regulars for a reason.
I don't think anyone really goes to Harpers for the beer, do they? I haven't been in there in years, but I don't recall their home brews being that good, nor do I recall their beer list being all that impressive. On top of it, Harpers food is mediocre and the service often terrible.
Competition between bars is usually a good thing, and tends to result in more business for both. If people can't get a table atHopcat, they'll probably go to Harpers. People going to Harpers will likely want to check out Hopcat. Etc.
Bars tend to do better when they're located near other bars, not worse.
My bad, meant a link to the OP's news... was it from the HopCat mailing list? It doesn't look like they've been tweeting for a couple years, and there's no info on their website or Facebook page.
It's not enough to bash in heads, you have to bash in minds.
Theres a Hop Cat East Lansing FB page
Didn't come across it on the first go-around, much obliged.
Yes, in most markets this is true but not necessarily in EL. EL bar patrons are sheep, they go "where it's busy", not based on what they like. And the people who think more bars are needed don't get supply and demand. There are appoximately 2700 bar seats downtown ( Peanut Barrel to Crunchys, east to west). Most people only see the lines on football weekends. Take a stroll on a Monday night in January.
Any word if they'll allow dogs on their patio like they do in grand rapids?
Man, Hopcat is going to be a colossal failure.
[Edit: This is sarcasm, since at least a few of you didn't seem to catch that. I think Hopcat will do just fine...]
This post was edited by Phil McCrackin 14 months ago
Actually, I'm sure they will rock for the first couple years at least. My point is that most people don't understand the battle for patrons on a daily basis. For every very busy Thursday through Saturday there is a dead Sunday through Wednesday. Ask any bar owner downtown how business is now compared to 10-15 years ago.
That's how bars work, they make their money and weekend nights. You're not going to find a ton of bars in many locations that are busy every night of the week. Take a stroll down Main Street in Ann Arbor and see how many people are in those bars Sunday through Wednesday. If people are more likely to go out (more options), bars will do well.
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Is anyone in this thread really complaining about getting a satellite version of one of the best beer bars in the world???
I don't think it makes sense in a college town. Kids go to bars to get drunk and laid, not for a wine tasting with expensive beer.
maybe you old fucks should have raised us youngsters right to drink every night of the week.
East Lansing- A Drinking Town with a Football Problem
I believe the goal is to attract young professionals instead of students, hence much of the more-expensive housing options being built in Downtown over the past few years. This bar has the potential to go a long way towards attracting that demographic.
BEAUTIFUL! Can't wait.
I'm 21 and go to east Lansing every weekend... I highly doubt ppl are going to pay 7-8 bucks a beer. The microbrew scene is almost non existent. Sounds like a big boom or bust bar
You're an idiot if you think a lack of lines on a Monday night in January means that there isn't a demand for more bars downtown.
Right, that's why Crunchys and Beggar do so poorly, oh wait, no they do fine.
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