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Yes. The opening of Harpers was a big deal. Dooleys had been gone for 18 months and the giant venue (700 cap) was back on the scene. Trouble was that the ownership had no idea what they were getting into.
Hopcat is a proven product and they will do fine in EL. Just not buying the "amazing" or "game changing" predictions.
Reno's has 62 beers available. I think they are all taps. I was there for the Indiana game and I thought it was kind of overkill.
No EL server is going to take the time to know the list well enough to offer recommendations and there have to be a lot of beers that they don't turn over very often. Sure, it's great that I can get some obscure doppelbock but I'm gonna be pissed if I pay 8 bucks for it and it tastes like shit because the keg is a year and a half old.
Nailed it and this is why a huge craft beer selection is overrated.
IMHO 10 taps with six crafts seems to be adequate. I know Buddies in Holt and Okemos have a set up somewhere around there. Taps 25 downtown seems to manage pretty well but I think anything north of that is tough to do right.
LouHa's has at least 25-30 craft taps and I think they do a poor job. I've only come across one server who has a clue about any of their beers. The one I'm thinking of is a pro though.
It's obvious that the people who say you can't get a craft beer in EL either haven't been here for years or just don't pay attention. All that said, I am excited for HopCat to move in.
No, people thought I was referring to the Roadhouse (pub) when I said Roadhouse. I've never been to the Pub.
There is a new sheriff in town. Get use to it.
I will hit it up when the students are out of town.
In this thread: people blowing smoke up asses because they don't like/ threatened by craft beers.
Do you hear voices? In your head?
They will have 100 taps?
That seems ambitious.
I'd love to see a marketing study that supports that.
If you say so Ernie. How often will you get to EL to enjoy the game changer ?
Loved the Coyote...food was decent...beer was decent...at the same time it was fairly obvious the place was going to fail.
I'm trying my best to be objective here. But given your strident positions regarding the EL restaurant scene (ill-informed IMHO), how in the world have you never been to the Roadhouse?
I'm not saying this as a fan of the Roadhouse (In general, I'm apathetic), but come on man. You're portraying yourself as the defacto EL restaurant guru...and you've never been to the Roadhouse?
It's only been there 30+ years and too easy to park.
English. Please learn your mother tongue. For the love of God...
Like I said I was at work and typing fast...
Thanks for the info (and graphics). Somehow I picturered the ramp much closer to Ann Street. Now, the building next door, are you saying that a new building is going in there as well? If so, are there tenants lined up and who are they?
This is true to an extent but in GR most of the parking meters only have to be paid between 8:00 am and 5:00 pm M-F, and there is generally no penalty for parking overnight. However even with plenty of on-street parking if you get downtown after 6:00 on a weeknight or pretty much anytime after noon on Saturday, you will have a hard time finding an open meter.
I've never been to the PUB, I've been to the Harrison Roadhouse. This marks the 4th post that I've explained this.
Ths is old news, but don't forget, they're also opening a brew pub in Lansing across from the Lugnuts stadium.
Love the commitment to the Lansing area. And who knew.... the Hopcat guy owns the salvage rights to the Titanic.
Yeah, this isn't part of the building that went up where The Post was, that building is only 4 or 5 stories, where this one will be many more. Idk about the other tenants yet, this is all I've heard of the building.
I must've missed this explosion of "high overhead sports bars of 10-15 years ago" in East Lansing.
And yeah, summer can be rough on downtown businesses, but stop acting like nothing can survive in EL. There are many examples of "high overhead" operations that have been around for decades downtown EL. If Harpers can stay in business, I have no doubt that HopCat can figure it out.
How can we know for sure? He may be a very successful business owner, but he isn't a poster on tRCMB, I think that really hurts his business credentials.
Fair point, especially the Harpers example. But don't confuse staying in business with being profitable. In fact, I'm sure Harpers has LOST a lot of money over the years.
I love this thread - absolutely classic RCMB. The guy who owns HopCat is filthy rich, and he didn't get that way by making a bunch of shitty business decisions. Who are any of us to decide whether or not this place is going to be successful?
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