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"Normally" but this year the Big 12 is up and the Big 10 is down. I compared Rutgers to the bottom half of the Big Ten to show that by adding Rutgers, we are adding a middle of the pack football team. That's my point. We aren't adding Akron. Rutgers is better than half our conference and better than MSU this season.
That's actually better than mine. +1.
Delaney says during the Maryland Press Conference..."I just finished a conference call with the other B1G AD's and they were literally giddy with excitement" Everyone listening says, "No, No, No they weren't"
This post was edited by biologos 20 months ago
This isn't rocket science, the principal purpose is to expand the conference recruitng base. Rust belt high schools aren't producing competitive athletes any longer. He can't publically say it, but that's the motivation. The difference in quickness and speed between the rest of the country and rust belt athletes is becoming more and more apparent.
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"I think the world is run by C students"
Well the Big East is collapsing. do we just let the ACC+ ND take over their best recruiting region by default.
The schools are still there, they won't lose their base. The great majority of southern kids have very little exposure to northern schools and the only way to level the playing field is for northern schools to gain a foothold in the region ala conference members from the region.
This post was edited by rob 20 months ago
I'm not so sure Rutgers will struggle. NJ has 12 million people and good HS talent. RU is the only program in that state.
RU is now a viable option for those kids. Nobody wanted to go play in the Big Least. I'd actually be kind of surprised if they aren't a consistent upper half of the Big Ten team.
Yes, but Rutgers like the the crap teams of the B1G lost to a MAC team so they really aren't any better than the three 2-5 teams you've compared them to, is my point.
How can you say we are adding a middle of the pack team that lost to a MAC team when the last place teams of the B1G also lost(not MSU) to MAC schools. Seems to me they will fit right in at the bottom.
At today's presser, Delany will say this is about academic/cultural fit, blah, blah. He should just print a cable bill.
Agree with this completely. Give them 10 years, they could easily be a power. More than likely I see them on the level of a Wisconsin or Iowa (normally) though.
Why? Rutgers is not and has never been dominant in the Big East, but they are going to be a "power" in the B1G?
PSU was a national power upon entering the B1G, in their first 11 seasons they had 4 seasons of under .500 ball, but fucking Rutgers is going to come in and dominate? Give me a break. The best chance they have in either division is 3rd and that's during their best seasons. They aren't going to be better then tOSU or Wisky and it doesn't look like PSU is going away quietly. They aren't going to be better then umAA, Nebraska or even MSU on a regular basis. What is this belief based on? The thought that they some how will start getting the best talent in their own state in which they haven't been? If anything, it opens up their state to more B1G teams that have much better brands.
They will be upgrading their competition hence more attractive to NJ high school athletes to stay home and play.Think of it as a two way investment.
And well, I was thinking about Richmond, but then the arachnophobia kicked in.
THIS, THIS, a thousand times this. Watch out ND because if the ACC loses one more then it becomes untenable as a football conference for your purposes. Keep an eye on Clemson or FSU. IF they bolt for somewhere else, the ACC becomes a bball conference. Delaney is trying again to back them into a corner. IF the B1G goes after another ACC school, then the end game is in sight.
Oh and btw, for all you dolts that hate the new B1G members...
Repeat after me:
$100 million, $110 million, $120 million, $130 million, or $140 million!
Keep repeating because that's what those two schools are going to worth to the rest of us.
In five to ten years: $35 to $45 million to each B1G University vs $21 now.
Nίκη για MSU
I think it will be interesting to see if MD and Rutgers in the B1G makes it easier for them to retain top athletes or easier for B1G programs to pluck them away now, or both.
I was wondering where I saw that stupid face before. Thanks rusty, you solved my days biggest problem....
Penn State was a national brand that feasted off nobodies and made a ton of money on their own. Rutgers biggest issue has been lack of funds for facilities. That changes now. On top of that the team that has feasted on their state is a dumpster fire now (Penn State).
This post was edited by jimmywalker 20 months ago
I can see them being similar to Iowa. Some good years, some bad years, and the rare year where they contend for a title.
This post was edited by scott91575 20 months ago
You need to put us below penn state and north western and that would be accurate.
Keeping the sunshiners in check since 2000.
From what I see on this board, it isn't appropriate to say "how stupid does Delany think we are" since it is clear that it would be better to say "Delany KNOWS how stupid we are" based on the ignorance and stupidity regularly displayed around here.
This post was edited by ancientspartan 20 months ago
As far as out smarting the SEC,that has not happened so far.
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In my opinion Maryland needed to get out of the ACC ASAP if they wanted to attempt to avoid the increased exit fee, but they needed a dance partner. In order to have a championship game a conference needs to be in divisions and the Big Ten wasn't going to sit at 13 with two unequal divisions. Who can the Big Ten, and Maryland, go to with out sounding a warning bell? The Virginia teams would, most likely, have notified the ACC of Maryland's intentions and it would have made the exit fee harder to avoid. The Big XII appears to be okay with Texas running the show and West Virginia isn't going to jump to a new conference after joining the Big XII. Pitt and Syracuse would have been better options than Rutgers, IMO, but I wouldn't see either of them jumping to a new conference after pledging allegiance to the ACC and paying another exit fee on top of the exit fee to the Big East.
The only option, other than a mid major, was a Big East school. Rutgers fits the mold and makes more sense than Cincinnati, Louisville or UConn. It was the only choice if Maryland was going to come to the B1G right now. I don't think Rutgers is a the right school, but it's the right school right now.
The B1G looked at a lot of 'markets' during the last go at expansion. Rutgers is actually worth more than Md ($67 to $50 million) and both are way ahead of the others that you mentioned.
It was a 'no-brainier' to choose those two.
lol, Delany doesn't care. Just show him the MONEY!!!
edit: Payouts are estimated to be $24.6 million this year. With the two new members, estimates are up to $35 million ( or more ) by the end of the decade... Not shabby.
This post was edited by Bender 20 months ago
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