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They were a force in the 90s under Montgomery. Being an elite school, with a good tradition and in a basketball rich state, I'm kind of surprised they haven't done much over the last decade. Granted, UCLA had a good run in the mid 2000's, and Arizona has been up and down, but you think they would get an elite kid or two every year.
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They were damn good with the Lopez twins. Just got bounced early in March.
Coaching changes are tough. Monty split and Dawkins is having a hard time getting it going.
Anyone. Anyplace. Anytime.
It just seems like every good school in Cal should be solid, if not a force in hoops. So much talent, so many reasons to stay in state.
How does the Bay area not have a very good team? Yeah, you got to have a steady coach, but it shouldn't be hard to attract one. I have to think it's just not important to the school and fan base. Why break your back or checkbook trying to find a great coach/team if it doesn't result in a $ boost?
Doesn't Stanford use University requirements instead of NCAA requirements?
This post was edited by tJYD 16 months ago
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Yep. Stanford, Northwestern, and Vandy all use their own requirements for athletes admissions.
Jabari Parker to Stanford?
There is the OPs answer he's looking for.
They may use their own admissions, but I can't imagine any possible way that they use the same standards as the regular student body, NO WAY
They passed on Lin-sanity. Downhill from there.
A big no on Duke, GTown, and others? I have no idea, but I figures Stanford would play by some rules to be competitive. They were good in the 90's...
It is. Stanford raised its admission standards so much that it almost killed off their football team (2006). Harbaugh had to convince the dean to lower the standards back to normal (normal for Stanford) so that those football players can admitted.
They do, so does Northwestern and Vandy, as already noted my another poster.
There is not a chance on gods green earth that all those football players from across the nation would get in there on their own accord, not an effing chance
Most of them can. What you are saying is athletes are dumb and can't get into schools like a Stanford or a Northwestern without cheating on a test. Well, lets just say during my time in high school, I knew a few football and a all state basketball player that had the grades and scores to get into Stanford if they chosed to gone there.
You sound like a moron.
I'm saying that the odds of every player, many of whom had offers from all over the country, could get in is not real high IMO. I'm sure some could, but getting into those schools is ridiculous for most normal people
This post was edited by Spartanburg88 16 months ago
I read his post as sarcasm because, well, it has to be. Right? Being good at sports and being intelligent are not mutually exclusive (even though many dweebs on this board want
to believe so for their own pathetic selves).
Stanford and others do have much higher than typical NCAA standards, but they aren't the same as those required of the student body.
I don't think some of you realize just how hard it is to get into Stanford or Northwestern.
1 in a 100 high school football players will play college football at the DI, DII or DIII levels. Obviously Stanford is DI, and better than most DI programs, so you're talking about taking the elite kids from that 1%.
Then, there are maybe 2 or 3 kids in 1000 that academically qualify for admission to Stanford (officially, 7% of applicants).
Stanford would probably need to land EVERY kid that was DI worthy, and Stanford worthy...unless the requirements weren't the same. Which they aren't.
And to be fair, I've never seen Stanford claim that they are the same.
Unless you know what the heck you are talking about, you need to stay out of grown people's conversations.
You act like getting a 1200 SAT score and maintaing a 3.5 GPA in core classes , mostly AP classes, is impossible to achieve ( and those were the minimum requirements for Stanford when I was on school.) and for the anyone, anyone who is taking an pre-AP or AP class has some smarts to begin with.
Part of the problem for Stanford is that after just 3 (?) years away Montgomery took the job at Cal. Notice that Cal has been near or at the top of the P12 since then? Not like that's been saying much.
It's not like the Bay area is a hotbed for basketball, and now the kids who want to stay or be there go to Cal instead.
Not the same but they have the smallest deviation between regular students and athletes SAT score of any BCS school. It used to be you had o b admitted to take an official visit, now, thanks to Harbaugh, it's just to get a written scholarship offer/NLI.
This post was edited by Enrico Palazzo 16 months ago
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Holy smokes. That's all you needed to do to get into Stanford? Msu required a 3.4 and a 26 on the act, what you just outlined isn't much more rigorous
You need a lot higher than a 1200 SAT and 3.5 GPA
That's nice. It still means they have higher athlete admissions standards than MSU.
Not even the Ivy League has quite the same admission standards for athletes as they do for regular student body. While all the athletes are above the minimum, it's not uncommon for them to be in the bottom percentiles. If the same admissions standards were applied, they'd be scattered on the bell curve.
This post was edited by Beardy 16 months ago
...aaaaand you just showed you don't know what the heck you are talking about.
SAT is now scored on a 2400 point scale. If you're going on the former 1600 point scale... that's still not good. A 3.5 GPA is also... meh... by Stanfords standards. A 1200 SAT score and 3.5 wouldn't get you into the honors college at MSU, let alone Stanford. The students getting into stanford nowadays are around the 3.8 mark with an ACT of around 32.
Back to the thread's OP: there's a general "meh" about college sports in the Bay Area. This place is ruled by the 49ers and Giants. There are proud alums, for sure, but athletics is very much in the back seat.
69% of admitted Stanford students have a 4.0 or above, 88% have above a 30 on ACT
And in high school I knew Ryan McDonald who graduated as a salutorian in my high school (~500 in the class), had offers from the bottom half of the Big Ten, and scored some ridiculous number on his SATs. He went on to play center at Illinois (2004-08) while earning a Master's in Aerospace Engineering. Anecdotal evidence does not change the fact that in high school star athletes are usually academically coddled, if they're at a school that has strong academics to begin with. Star athletes aren't dumb. They just aren't often forced to prove that.
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