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How would you do it?
My solution is to eliminate charging as a call entirely.
I like your idea. Mine is to let the guy going up for the shot kick the guy in the nuts.
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Look at what Zeller just did.. just fucking fell over and didnt try to play defense at all. Reward players who play actual defense, and call technicals on flops with no attempt at playing defense.
Eliminate it. Have a "player control" foul where an obviously out of control player gets called for the foul. Eliminating the charge would eliminate the flop.
As I posted in another thread....allow the basket to count if the contact comes after the ball is released
Only call it if the player with the ball is out of control?
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That's right, posting up your body in front of a driving player isn't defense, it's counter to the spirit of the game... It's baiting a call, setting up the offensive player to commit a foul and nothing more, defense should be about affecting the ability to make points, not commit fouls.
That is already a rule...
Go back to original call based on offensive player being out of control.
Used to actually be called a player control foul. Seth Davis said this afternoon that 90% of coaches want more charges, not less. Says that too many coaches feel they can't compete without it, due to not having the best players.
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I would be just fine if they took out the charge/block. What happened to playing defense? Now everybody just stands there and flops at every opportunity.
Don't allow secondary defenders to get charge calls go their way.
Well the ball was clearly out of the ISU guys hand before he landed on Craft today.
They can do that. The ref is looking at the feet, the contact and to try to see if the ball has been released all in a split second.
I am gravely disappointed. Again you have made me unleash my dogs of war.
Used to be a defender had to be set, two feet in the ground, firmly planted. Then it was "positional advantage" and now it's a flip of the coin based on how gracefully you fall backwards. Get rid of charging, make it an automatic defensive foul, and the game gets 99% better
So the question becomes why are we looking to help the guys who can't recruit good enough to get the cream of the crop, why should those guys be awarded if guys like Izzo, Matta are out working those guys on the recruiting trail. I mean is it Izzo's fault he recruits better than Bo Ryan does? I can understand the mid major coaches being in favor, but to help people who can't the job done is absurd.
Well if they are looking at a guys effing feet as a shooter shoots that is another problem
1 second set rule- If your feet aren't set for a second, you don't have position. Would eliminate guys trying to jump in front of each other for foul calls.
Also, if your hands aren't in a guarding position, you can't draw a charge. If you tuck your hands and arms into your body you are setting an illegal pick, not playing defense.
1. Educate officials as to what a charge and block is
2. T up jackasses who flop and destroy the game. Hold firm to it
3. Zero tolerance on these calls. T up any coach who questions it
4. Get rid of the semi circle (or at least extend it out)
5. Get rid of Aaron Craft and Bo Ryan
6. Set up an award program for officials. Grade them every game, the best officials get to do the Sunday CBS game while the shitty ones do Northwestern vs Penn State. Keep them motivated
7. Announcers who actually call out shit fouls will improve the game, not hurt it. As soon as someone figures this out college basketball as a whole will greatly improve
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Don't call it
What's wrong with a little contact?
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Well Hell if we get to change rules, let's change the one where a player driving to the basket loses control of his body yet gets a foul called in his favor. Hell let's change everything that doesn't go our way next game.
I'm just pointing out how much shit they have to determine in a split-second.
Really the only way is to eliminate human beings from the equation. Time and time again people have been known to fuck up.
it's not that hard....stop rewarding players for running under shooters instead of playing defense. The call was pretty rare 15 years ago. Just return to calling it that way and problem is solved. If the shooter isn't a runaway freight train bowling over a guy that was there a long time ago then it's a block. If they call it this way the players will adjust - just like they've adjusted into under cutting floppers because refs reward it.
They do that already.
To me, the biggest problem with the call now is that it actually encourages a defender to stand stationary in the lane and wait for contact. You should reward the defense for making an attempt to challenge a shot, not reward them for failing to challenge a shot.
To fix it, inside the lane area, allow all body contact (aside from contacting the shooters arm) that is a result of challenging a shot. If a defender hits an arm or does something to move the offensive player without an attempt to challenge the shot, then it's a foul on the defender. Rooting out would be a foul in this definition, as would standing there and letting a player run into you, since you're not making an attempt to challenge a shot. Body contact that occurs as you're challenging a shot would be allowed, and that would encourage players to, you know, actually defend.
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