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The US govt. would never help domestic auto companies.
While simultaneously giving enormous tax breaks for Toyota and Honda to build and operate plants in the southern states... The US sure is loyal to domestic auto companies.
Job creation is (apparently) more valuable than loyalty.
Hasn't GM moved production of some cars and trucks to Mexico and Canada though? That's not really being loyal.
ass d, is it me or is Nigel starting to rival Nucky ?
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@ Nigel. Dude's a whackjob.
It's a vicious cycle. There are built in advantages to being a foreign automaker selling cars to America. The southern states will encourage you to build plants down there while not extending the same offer to American auto makers, creating an unfair market. I'm also anxious to see the figures on how many plants are located in America vs outsourced jobs for Domestic vs import cars, respectively. I'd wager domestic car companies still employ many more Americans in production than foreign auto makers do.
Jesus Christ I tried hard to stay out of this, but how much loyalty do you require? The US government bailed their bankrupt inefficient asses out.
Its five o'clock somewhere.
He's a less blunt Tanfan, and not as omniprescent as Bobby Sak. Not a bad guy, I'm sure. No one can rival Nucky, the guy is an artist.
Dragged them through the mud first. Still creating an unequal market for domestic auto companies.
The bailout the US companies received is about 5% of what the TARP funds totaled, and no one is using that as an excuse to bank internationally.
Coming from you?
That means a lot.
We're having a big boy discussion here.
Go put some wax on your wife's BMW.
Find yourself looking in a mirror again? You're the definition of maladjusted boner.
Does Michigan encourage foreign automakers to build cars in Michigan?
Foreign auto companies build in the south mostly because they can hire non-union labor.
dude you're the one lashing out - so much self loathing and anger haha.. Boner
Read: Southern states.
Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia are where a lot of those plants are.
Michigan would never encourage foreign auto makers to build here.
Can we not make this about you?
Seriously, this xenophobic shit again. I would expect this from white trash but not educated people
I would expect a lot more people to know what they're talking about before posting in a thread, but this is tRCMB
Try again eventually youll get a number right
Well mr buzzsaw you make alot of stupid assumptions. Our shop is a UAW shop, my brother is a plant manager at ford any my sister in law is a vp at Ford. You're spouting youre opinion as if it were fact but as I said its bullshit. The things you are talking about happened in the 90's and early 2000's ..Lately the big 3 have been hiring lots of workers at that 15$ an hr starting wage..not waiting for #'s to dwindle. The economics are not what they used to be. As for efficiency in our UAW shop..you could't do the job with a full week of training.
You're right, about 11.5 % of the TARP funds is more accurate
WASHINGTON, Aug 13 (Reuters) - The U.S. Treasury Department has said the auto industry bailout will cost taxpayers $3.4 billion more than previously thought. Treasury now estimates the 2009 bailout will eventually cost the government $25.1 billion, according to a report sent to Congress on Friday. That is up from the last quarterly estimate of $21.7 billion. Since the $80 billion bailout of the auto industry, Detroits big automakers have moved from crisis to profit. GM and Chrysler were put through government-funded bankruptcies that slashed costs and debt. Treasury has so far recouped about half of what was extended in grants and loans to GM and Chrysler, related retail financing arms and suppliers.
The "unfair market" or cost of labor isn't created by the Southern States.
That is because production is up after going through a massive downturn. That is the only reason UAW number have increased in the last few years, and it's very, very little. UAW membership is down over 200,000 (over 30%) vs. just 2005.
and yes, you point out any line job at a UAW OEM assembly plant, and I can be up to speed in about 15-30 minutes. In many cases, even less than that. If you don't know that, then you once again are showing you don't know anything about OEM assembly plants.
Plus, if you don't think there are a bunch of feeder plants that do assembly work, and that is done due to cost (thanks to the UAW) and efficiency I really don't know how to help you. It's a fact. It's done everywhere.
BTW...I don't give a shit about your plant. I didn't say anything about doing a job at your plant. That does not go into assembly plant efficiency. I tell you what, you shut your hole about OEM assembly plants (which you know nothing about) and I won't talk about your supplier plant. Deal?
They were bankrupt. They put themselves in the mud. The government pulled them out.
That isn't a truck. It's a unibody POS that looks like something I passed out of my ass.
Real trucks are body on frame.
Did you get a lifetime supply of vagisil when you bought that vagtastic car?
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There's a time and a place for everything and it's called college.
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