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The part that pains me the most is that the OL played it's best game of the year, and we still found a way to lose.
Who is responsible for the O? If the scoring O is 100 something, who is responsible for improving that? If it's the talent, who recruited and "coached" the players? It's all the same answer, whether you want to admit that or not. Also, you're listening to the commentators compliment Roushar, what do your own eyes tell you?
When I see MSU line up in a power formation on 3 and 2 I know we're going to see a punt on the next play.
You see a drive or two every game that doesn't look like it was called by the same guy who called the rest of the game. If it's the OC, at best you can say he's inconsistent.
This post was edited by spartan80 17 months ago
So you're saying Roushar is unpredictable? Funny, goes against what most here are whining about constantly.
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First, I don't KNOW that he's calling those drives. For the sake of the conversation let's say he is. If you want to say he's unpredictable on whether he can call a good drive, I'll agree with that. To me he can't consistently call a good drive. Further, if you want to argue, it's the players not making plays, that falls on the O staff's doorstep too because they recruited and coached them.
You want to argue with someone about whether the playbook opens then slams shut, argue with Kovacs and Maxwell. They both said the playbook opened for the first drive of the 2nd half v. um.
I'll catch you later, fairweather fan. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
keep creating your own reality. Dantonio named Roushar as OC to replace Don Treadwell. Dantonio hired Treadwell as OC when he took the Cincinnati job in 2004 plus Teadwell and Dantonio had worked together at Youngstown St. Dantonio hired Roushar as Oline coach in 2005 at Cincinnati and like Treadwell Roushar joined Dantonio in East Lansing.
Think about it. If Dantonio didn't care about control he would have gone off the reservation when Treadwell left and hired an OC and given him a free rein but he didn't. He hired a member of his own staff.
As someone mentioned before, Roushar has no idea how to kill clock when it needs to be killed.
He has a balance between run and pass. Everyone wants to know why we don't run plays that worked "last year" but haven't done squat this year. But nothing we have tried this year has worked with any consistency.
But I'm still amazed how we can't seem to run pass routes that get someone open. While other teams frequently can get separation against our above average defense.
Play after play we have no receiver running routes in the middle of the field.
I would love to hear the reasons for this.
This post was edited by WBill19542 17 months ago
I just think our issues on offense run much deeper than one man. When it's 3rd and 2 and we pound the ball and get stuffed, people get mad that it was a predictable play call. When it's 3rd and 2 and we pass, people get mad we didn't go to our "bread and butter." Dantonio is a smart guy, and it's insulting to him for some fans to suggest that this offense would be magically repaired if we just hired a new OC. If it was truly that simple, I'm confident Dantonio would have done something about it by now.
Last year we had talent and experience and were very good. This year we have so-so talent and lots of youth and are struggling. Shouldn't come as that much of a surprise. Next year Maxwell and the receivers will all have a year under their belts. If the offense isn't dramatically improved, then I will be on board with hiring a new OC. I think you have to give most coaches at least two years to prove themselves. Just think, if a lot of the over-reactionary armchair QBs on this board had their way, Narduzzi would not be our DC today.
For weeks now (maybe going back to last year), you've continused to blame Roushar for recruiting the offensive players, despite being told multiple times that that is not how it works. It's like your inane theory, without a shred of evidence or logic to back it up, where you say that Dantonio only hired Roushar because we wouldn't pay anyone else. Repeating a fallacy doesn't make it true.
Coaches recruit geographic territories, not positions. Do their future position coaches/coordinators meet with them? Of course, but that's minor compared to the amount of contact that they have with their primary recruiter and the head coach. Dantonio is 10x more responsible than Roushar for the recruitment of these players.
There are a lot of ostensibly intelligent people here. That's why it never ceases to amaze me how many people look for ONE cause, ONE scapegoat, ONE focus. Why is everyone so black and white around here? Do you all have the intellectual development of 5-year-olds?
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You refuse to defend the specifics.
Iowa need to kill the ball, and we pass pass pass.
Saturday, we need to kill time, Run, Pass, Pass.
OSU, we need a come back down late, run power on 2nd and 10 from our own 30.
There are dozens of "throw away" play calls, that make absolutely no sense.
Stop pretending you know more because you've had program access in the past. Look at the damn product on the field, and the play calling that goes behind it.
I've only missed a few games in the past 13 years. I go to atleast one away game a year. I donate $$$$ to the program.
Kiss my ass with the fairweather non-sense. I weathered Saban fleeing town, Bobby, JLS, down years of dantonio, up years, now this.
In year 6 of a program, you shouldn't take THIS big of a step backwards.
Stop apologizing and demand better of your program, your university.
Narduzzi was dealing with JLS's leftovers in 2009. I predicted 2009 would be (and should have been) MD's worst year. It was the awkward spot between his guys maturing, and the JC's from 2006 were gone, and there was such little depth.
Loses sure bring out the retard in people.
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I don't know shit. That I can assure you.
But you're entertaining.
How many programs were chomping at the bit to hire Roushar as their OC when we had him locked up as the o-line coach?
I'll hang up and listen.
Because we go to games and only follow the ball and immediately after a play doesn't work we need to blame someone. It's easiest that way.
10? 3? How many guesses do I get?
If you blame guys want to point fingers at one side of the ball for the loss on Saturday...you're pointing at the wrong side.
When there is a clear failure at one spot, we assign blame.
So we insist on passing in the 4th quarter. Why two bombs?
Why the aversion for the middle of the field?
Why the unique hatred of PA pass?
Why never develop a 2nd back?
No screen game, still.
So many empty backfields on 2nd and short and 3rd and short.
That's not the lineman being hurt, of a dropped pass. That's a design flaw.
I feel bad about giving you a hard time in previous posts. I did not realize the degree to which you keep the program afloat.
Well then, there you go.
. Thanks for the wrap up
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