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The pessimist in me wants to agree with you, but...
a) I never had a problem with Tresselball itself, I had a problem that it was some cultish manthra that was worshipped and not modified/abandoned when data showed it was failing miserably. Forget halftime adjustments, there were whole games were the "identity" was being forced to work instead of changing the plan to adapt to a challenge.
c) DBs are really good.
d) Did I mention Bullough?
e) Maxwell was playing against the MSU defense in the spring game, which is sick. Their schedule does not have that level too frequently.
PASS ME SOME SPARTAN KOOL AID AND LETS GO!
I am shocked; SHOCKED, I say, at some of the people supporting the OP.
Oh wait. Not that. The opposite of that.
The usual crew of pouters and moaners.
"When I was in school they told me practice makes perfect. Then they told me nobody's perfect. So I stopped practicing." --Steven Wright
I honestly think the O will be much improved this year. So much so, that it will be full on mediocre.
But really, I think our O will be fine.
Also, I have learned over the years that you just never know with sports. Crazy things happen. It's possible that our D will be disappointing and our Offense will improve dramatically. Sports can be funny like that.
It's justified. Look at the product on the field. That's all it comes down to.
Who do we play next week?
OK...there are a lot of good points in this thread. Both ways--negative and positive.
I feel that the O is going to be better this season if MSU can fill the loss of Bell--even 75% of his production. I know we have heard it before, but I kind of feel more confident in the OL this coming season. I think the depth is finally there and I think even our backups have starting experience. I think--hope--this will compensate for losing a lot of Bell's production.
I agree with one poster: MSU should not be in this predicament with the RB situation. MSU has a great tradition of running the ball. I think promising to only take one RB in the Tompkins class was a mistake. I hope MD learns from this in the future. I'm thinking--hoping--that a freshmen or two will be able to help significantly.
Before I completely throw in the towel on the TEs this season, I have to remember that I had never heard of Charlie Gantt before 2008 either.
With an improved OL, I think the QBs will do better. MSU's QBs aren't going to be facing a lot of Top 10 Ds this season. And I think Burbridge is going to be a star (I said it before last season started and I'm going to say it again--AB has NFL potential...). Along with a cast of pretty good receiving corp, I think we have some very good WRs--if they can reduce dropping passes. Remember K-Mart's sophmore and junior seasons? I think we need to give these guys one more season before we start looking to replace Samuels.
Bottom line: I really think the QBs are the main problem and solution to this O. Wth an improved OL and OC, I think "game management" is going to be much better this season. I guess I would feel a little more confident this coming season if we just had Bell for one more season.
I'm definitely not an expert, but I think MSU goes 9-4 this season.
This post was edited by One Eyed Jack 12 months ago
If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind.
- Kurt Vonnegut
If just getting over the fence = scoring, then I'm okay with scoring ugly TDs.
Re: Bell, MSU needs to exceed his production by about 25%. He accounted for nearly 1800 yards on the ground; I'd rather MSU RBs combine for over 2000, preferably 2200. Only way to do that is with 2 or more players.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
It's the proposed move to TE that has me soiling my Hanes. DT -- acceptable.
That's generous. You might even say he's over reacting just a tad. or a LOT.
There has been nothing remotely "mismanaged" about LT so far...he was too good not to put on the field so we did last year where we needed help and he delivered. Dude is a beast who has continued to grow into a DT instead of a LB/DE that he was recruited as. Not sure what the problem is there.
Did you not see Aaron Burbridge? Kid is a flat out stud. WR will not be a problem this year.
Gerald Holmes will be starting at RB - he just needs to get on campus.
TE is a concern. That's about the only thing the OP said that is remotely rational. But we already knew that before the spring game.
Anyone concluding ANYTHING about what may happen this fall based on a spring game where many starters didn't play is a moron. they are about as meaningless as anything in college sports. It's fun to get a look at guys we haven't seen before, but otherwise it's a glorified practice. To sit here and make grand pronouncements about the upcoming season based on what you saw last weekend is just fucking stupid. And yet idiots do it every year, and every year they're wrong.
I get that. But how realistic is that?
Yes. Observe the 2013 offense in April. That makes perfect sense.
"losing Caleb Benenoch is a blow that Dantonio will never recover from. Izzo has lost it as well. Hoke and Beilein own the state."
LT to TE is awesome. I imagine he'd be more of the H-back type of player, with some looks at FB and TE as well. He is a devastating blocker and also a good receiver out of the backfield. Especially good in 3rd down situations where he can take a checkdown and lumber forward a few yards and run a LB over for a 1st down.
Kid is 300lbs. He moves like he's 250.
Two running backs and a mobile QB. We're eliminating people aren't we. I don't see how Maxwell can start the more I think about this.
Facts "as l see them" oxymoron
It is VERY easy to be cynical right now. I can recall in the spring of 2012 I was researching the $$ I needed to save to book a trip to Pasadena. Yep, I thought MSU was a legit shot at the Rose Bowl. Then I watched in horror as MSU lost every single home B1G game. The primary reason was an offense that couldn't score.
Just step back for a second. What needed to change between 2012 and 2013 on offense? What? IMO, the following:
#1: fire the OC. That happened. Was it a major upgrade? Not sure. I worry the new hierarchy/chain-of-command could result in a bungling mess, but we'll see.
#2: QB improvement. Not sure here. Maxwell looks the same and the pessimist says MSU will dork around with a 2 QB system for too long. Another bungling mess could result.
#3: Playmakers. MSU needs playmakers. They lost their #1 and #2 playmakers from 2012, who are they gonna be in 2013? Perhaps Burbridge? Maybe Cook, (he did make plays in the Bowl game)? We're counting on sophomores who didn't start in 2012 to step up I suppose.
End of the day, I'm not sure how 2013 will go, but the forecast looks more cloudy than sunshine.
Agree. As much as it hurts to say, I have never been this apathetic towards a Dantonio Spartan team after the spring game. Last year I thought that the Maxwell injury was a ploy to keep him under wraps until the fall. Now, I see the changes in the B1G and in NCAA football next year and I can't help but think that Roses just aren't going to grow in the Spartan garden anytime in the foreseeable future.
Bump. God damn it.
Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.
I didn't need to be prescient, I just needed to be paying slight attention. This shit was not mysterious.
Take a compliment much? I too was getting a shitty vibe once the OL stuff started to pop up. This could have been a strength with near perfect health and cohesion built over the year... Nope. And that's about 5th down the list of problems. I'm so fucking sick of wasting shitkicker defenses. I'd love to see Coach D send the D out playing both ways for a couple series to send a message.
116 yards in the air last night. For the whole team, not for one QB. Our offense passed for 116 yards against our opening night MAC cupcake.
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I appreciated the compliment, so thank you. It just wasn't such a genius thing I did. I watched the spring game and thought "this is visibly and obviously still a shit sandwich."
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