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I keep hearing about their athletes, and I've watched a few of their games this year. They're athletic. I don't think they are that much more athletic than us though. Stephens and Dawson are probably on par with each other in terms of raw athleticism. Payne might be one of the most athletic bigs in the country. I feel like the only non-athlete on the team is Nix....Maybe that's where people are seeing the clear difference.
No. They don't run sets like we do so people say they're athletic.
We have athletes they have thugs.
We owe them, I bet Izzo hasn't forgotten.
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After watching both games in person, I think they're a bit more athletic than us, but we have a lot more actual basketball skill.
I don't see tomorrow being a high-scoring game
I think you might be wrong about the score. I think both teams are going to want to run.
They look athletic because of the conference they play in. For example, you'd look like Usain Bolt if you ran a race against a guy with one leg.
I'm hopeful Memphis turns this into a track meet and starts crashing the offensive boards hard.
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They may be. Crawford is pretty quick, the Tarik Black guy is quite large, and that Stephens guy is probably the best athlete on either team (dude can kiss the rim, WTF?)
That being said, part of the perception comes from the fact that they are much more reckless than we are. They look for the alley-oop and big dunk at every possible opportunity, often resulting in TOs. Plus, they don't seem to do terribly well in half-court sets.
I actually kind of worry that this game may get a bit ugly in terms of physicality. It's clear, given Pastner's comments, that their team has a major chip on their shoulders and want desperately to return to the Cal days of Memphis basketball "respect". I wouldn't be surprised to see some hard fouls on fast breaks, or some extra pushing and shoving when Nix and Black or Adonis Thomas battle for position down low.
MSU will need to get their bigs in foul trouble. They are not coached well; Nix needs to be the focal point again and the big man needs to just repeat his hesitation move over and over. In the backcourt, Appling needs to match Crawford's production. If those two things happen, I think we win easy.
I am actually really surprised by their talk about respect. Didn't their program cheat and vacate a bunch of wins recently? They want respect? They can earn it like everyone else. When your program cheats you lose respect. That's how it works.
They're so athletic they managed to put up 54 points!
By way of reference, Wisconsin averaged 66 this season.
Payne, Harris, Dawson and Appling are pretty athletic in their own right. Nix is a bulldozer.
Its five o'clock somewhere.
Memphis can"t "bang" with the Spartans. If they try they lose.
This post was edited by rob 13 months ago
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Yeah no doubt Memphis is athletic but I feel like teams that play a more undisciplined street ball type game automatically get labeled athletic. Payne, BJ, Harris, and Appling are pretty damn athletic
Nix is going to get his shot blocked a zilly times.
Key will be how he responds to that and THAT HE KEEPS GOING STRONG.
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Tom mentioned that they may be the most athletic team that we have played all year. . . and Coach is routinely generous in his praise for opponents. But I was thinking that they may be among the most athletic. Kansas and Minnesota come to mind. Frankly I feel that we are probably the most athletic team in the B1G.
Indiana has some pretty good athletes in Oladipo and Sheehey but I agree we're probably tops in that category in the B1G
More so than IU?
Not to mention Trice and Valentine. Nix is a big guy but it would be a mistake to not consider him athletic. He has tremendous hands and footwork.
At every position outside of Olidipo. But he minus well count for about 3 guys.
This post was edited by SpartanElement 13 months ago
What makes you say that?
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We beat them down by 19...... athleticism only takes you so far.
I think that we are the most athletic team in the B1G. I actually think that outside of Nix, our starting 5 is as athletic as anyone in the country. Nix is such a big part of the team though that I think when people think of us, they think of him, and it lends itself to that unathletic perception.
This post was edited by WavSpartan 13 months ago
I'd take Zeller over Nix so with Olidipo counting as 3 using your count it is 5-4 MSU.
Hands and footwork are not athleticism. Speed, quickness, jumping, etc = athleticism.
His jumping ability tops out at like 3 inches and he runs a 40 in like 12.8 seconds...not athletic in the sense that people mean here.
Strong, yeah. Tough to move, yeah. Decent touch, yeah. But I don't think I've ever actually witnessed a derrick Nix dunk in his 4 years at MSU.
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