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Yes, definitely better to not make it to the Rose Bowl than to go and lose. #sarcasm
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So which one is harder to get into a FF or the Rose Bowl?
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Not a chance.
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Winning a championship is a lot harder in football because of all the people and factors you have to have go right to succeed. You could be an up and coming basketball coach and finnaly get a bcs aq job. All you need is one recruiting class where you wire some money to the top prospects and you could easily win the natty. If it's a loaded class with some good prospects you could do it. Football takes years to build a program.
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Rose Bowl. You slip up early in a season and can lose the opportunity to go to the Big Ten Championship.
Final Four barrier to entry is different but if you are considered a major school you can finish 3-4-5-6 in your conference get the right draw and get hot at the right time. If the NCAA went back to a smaller field and a team who didn't win their conference tournament was done I would have said Final Four but the expanded field has changed that.
Exactly. There are so many factors beyond your control in football, and politics/money/glamor play a much bigger role in determining the champion. Beyond that, the chasm between the haves and the have-nots is much greater in college football. Butler, a private school of 4,400 students, got to a freaking championship game in basketball and almost won. Competing with the Alabama's of the world in college football is a much greater task.
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Winning a championship in football is much harder than basketball because it doesn't exist.
Theirs were won wearing leather helmets, ours were won in what is typically regarded as the modern era of football.
One word answer to this: Delaney. It would never happen but I'd love to see MSU tell the B1G to bite it and leave.
I think its harder to make the RB. Once in the Bball tourney, anything can happen and its not that hard to make the tourney. Depending on matchups and what what not a team may have a relatively easy way to the FF.
Also in basketball, it's much easier to "get good" in a short period of time and become a threat. Look at M this year, one recruiting class has made all of the difference. That kind of stuff never happens in football. Making a RB is a culmination of many years of hard work in building a football program.
This post was edited by MBlueFan 15 months ago
let me expand the question:
Diffiulty to make rose bowl = difficulty to make round of ___ in tournament (68, 32, 16, 8, 4)...
I would say 16... Not quite elite, but pretty darn good and some things had to go right...
Rose Bowl. Butler got there twice. George Mason got there. If you end up with one or two stud players or a smaller school with a senior laden lineup of good players you have a shot.
MSU had its best two teams in a very long time and got screwed out of one Rose Bowl by OSU cheating and covering it up and another by a weak flopping the punter call. You can't just get one or two dominant players and get there. You need a number of very good players.
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The isolated cinderella stories go both ways though. Wisconsin made the RB and they finished 3rd in their division (with a .500 record). If anything, the conference championship game has made it easier to get to the RB because you don't have to be the best team throughout the season as in the past...you just have to win that last game.
How often will a 3rd place team in a division get the BTCCG?
Both the B1G and Pac have had some really down years and have sent some really mediocre teams to the RB. Especially before the divisions, winning the conference had a lot to do with who was off your schedule and who you got at home. I'd say a mediocre team slipped through the cracks and made it to Pasadena about as much as a mediocre team received a favorable draw or just got hot in March.
Well, a final 4 is harder to get too. We had the Rose Bowl in 2010 then Delany fucked us
It depends on who you are. A Rose Bowl may be harder for teams not named tOSU, simply because you're going to HAVE to beat tOSU most years to make the Rose. For a FF, you can get a favorable bracket, like when MSU had Northern Iowa knock out #1 overall Kansas when MSU was a 5 seed (or 4, I forget). It balances out over time, like when MSU had to beat Duke and Kentucky in back to back games in '04-'05, but a single FF run is possible after enough entries into the Dance (eventually you're going to have a favorable bracket). You don't even need to win your conference to have a shot at the FF in bball.
For the Rose, you can't just finish with the best regular season conf. record, you have to win the CCG against a good opponent.
Also, it's easier to have a great year in bball with 1 great player than it is to assemble a rose bowl caliber team.
This post was edited by MalibuMan 15 months ago
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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