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To me, I believe it is harder to get to a Rose Bowl. I also think it is hard to win a NC in football than baskeball (that is an easy one I think).
Regarding first question, usually you have to win your side of the conference, and due to the unblanaced schedule, you are not on the same playing field as others in your conference. Then, you have to win you conference title game. Seems silly if you have already beat the opponent once, and are a couple games better. However, that doesn't matter because these are the rules we play by now.
In hoops, you don't have to win a regular season game and you still have a chance to get to the FF. Win your conference tourney, and then you are in the playoff. Or, if that is too unrealistic, you can be the 7th best team in your conference and still have a chance to make a run to the FF. If you are the 7th best team in football in your conference, you have 0% chance of making Rose Bowl. I can at buy the other side of this debate.
The reason winning the NC in basketball is easier is because it is actually settled on the court. In football, there is way more politics involved to even think about getting a shot at the NC. Not even remotely debatable to me.
Didn't UConn just win a NC as the 6th best team in the Big East a few years ago or something?
I think it's very school-dependent. For MSU, a FF is much easier than a Rose Bowl. For Wisconsin, a Rose Bowl is much easier than a FF.
If you mean "Rose Bowl" as that game exclusively and not a BCS Bowl, then I think it's harder; tOSU made something like 1 Rose Bowl the past 15 years because they were playing for NC's or in other BCS games. They went to a bunch of Rose Bowls in the 70's, but have made 4 Rose Bowls since 1980 (the '80, '85, '97 and '10 Rose Bowls). So even for the best Big 10 program the Rose has been slightly more frequent than once-a-decade.
With the CCG giving the Rose to the winner unless the winner is in the NC game, then it could make it easier to get to the Rose (see Wisconsin this past year), but you still have tOSU lurking out there. I don't see that singular road block sitting out there in Bball, since it's all draw-dependent.
Now, it's not like tOSU is invincible, MSU was a blown fumble call away from knocking them off in EL this year, but they're going to be a tough out.
Also, there isn't an equalizer like the 3 point for football; it's pure athlete on athlete.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
So many things can happen once in the tourney.
Rocky has this gift of being able to be objective. Quality poster.
This is all that needs to be said. It's simple numbers and the rest of the talk is just noise.
Rose Bowl - 12 teams with a chance to occupy 1 spot, you play conf games and a championship game.
Final Four - 347 teams with a chance to occupy 4 spots, you play 30+ games attempting to make the tourney and have a seed that gives you a better path. Then have 4 games over two weekends in the most exciting playoff in sports to make it.
Final point, Northwestern has played in the Rose Bowl...they have never even made the NCAA tourney in basketball.
This post was edited by MSUDancinBear 15 months ago
Your average UofM fan and I have something in common, neither of us went to UofM. Though we do share One major difference, I got Accepted.
He is a good poster, but he actually failed miserably on this one.
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