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So I can only assume that you feel UM's 1989 basketball title ( along with years of games before and after) was won by cheating? That doesn't even take guessing like you're doing with Tressel. It has been proven.
The most important is "It's nothing more than marketing".
Jump into your time machine and go back to the mid 60's. Both tOSU and tScum were tired of Muddy and then Duffy beating the snot out of them. When Bo got hired at scum he and Woody got together and decided to really emphasize 'the game', which up to that time was mostly just another game (some were not even sell outs). They both agreeded to market the hell out of 'the game'.
They both agreeded to go after all the best talent in Michigan and offer them (even if the kid was going to sit on the bench) so that MSU would not get them. At the same time, MSU lost it's primary recruiting grounds to the southern schools who were starting to allow black players on their teams. MSU also made some very stupid hires for it's football coaches and thus the decline of MSU and the rise to tOSU and tScum rivalry. The B1G has yet to recover from this disaster.
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I have a feeling that somehow the first B10CG game under the new alignment will feature MSU v. Wisconsin or Nebraska.
Watch it happen.
But don't forget Bo and Woody also working to get us the 70's equivalent of the Death Penalty to completely wipe us out.
(And while Denny Stolz was no Biggie or early Duffy, he had things back on track until the sanctions. And Wharton who was the anti-Hannah didn't help matters at all.)
I think the UM hate of OSU is a culture within the school, but it's been enflamed by Hoke's little chants about beat Ohio etc etc etc. In the end, I think a UM fan is happy to be part of a rivalry that's still given way too much deference considering the declining national relevance of both teams..
I think the UM fan is more vocal/focused on MSU because we're a threat to the establishment. 4-1 over the last 5 years.. the loss was an away game by our worst team in those 5 years (worst offense anyway). And even a conservative MSU watcher has to believe we'll be above that level for the next couple of years. Gone are the John L/Williams days of UM dominance of the state. Frankly, I think they're concerned that we'll be a more major player in the East than they will.
Can someone get Delaney out from under Meyer's desk and share this with him?
LOL does agreeing with each other about this make you guys feel better somehow?
If UM gets a mulligan for RichRod, tOSU should get one for Coop
Should be fun if tOSU is on a 23 game winning streak!
Few, if any, Michigan fans are worried that this will happen.
Your team is the third latest B1G football team to be hit with NCAA penalities. How do we know that you guys haven't always shunned practice limits? We don't. How do we know that you guys didn't cover up child rape? We don't...
Maurice Clarrett was probably paid? WHOA?!?! Where did you find this... none of us have thought this.
Just showing Tressell over looking things goes way back
Hell we might still be over practicing who knows, MSU could be also
And Lloyd Carr didn't know about Woodson's transgressions?
Listen, CFB is dirty as fuck, and every team has skeletons in it's closet (or if you're the $EC the front yard). But for Michigan to point fingers at O$U is insulting. There are probably three truly clean programs in CFB:
Army. Navy. Air Force.
That's rich, some asshat Walverine is whining about other schools cheating.
News flash asshole. Ed Martin existed, paid over $600K to players that was uncovered and a lot more was left covered. What your basketball program did in the 80's and 90's makes Tat-gate look like a fucking minor tea party. Screw you.
Posting member of tRCMB since 1997.
It is ALWAYS a great day to be a Spartan!!!!
They went 12-0 on probation. What rivalry?
Both fanbases (more with Michigan) live in the Bo/Woody era.
SCum cheated for many years in basketball with Ed Martin paying the freight. During that time they cheated in baseball and probably fucking tiddly winks. How do I know they didn't cheat in football too? Heck, I'm sure Bo knew all about Ed Martin and his cash cakes. The hoops coaches did. I think Bo cheated, Mo cheated and Llllloyd cheated.
See how that works.
There was a tweet in the last couple of days from 11 Warriors regarding OSU's relationship with UM. I wish I wasn't on mobile and I didn't suck but they seem to love UM's success and say its beneficial for everyone in the conference except for MSU.
And this is the reason why the Big 2 era most M fans pine for will never come back.
But really the Big 2 was just more revisionist history. UM's side of it was beat up on the little 8, loose to OSU and not go to a bowl. Or go to a bowl and loose.
Michigan State tight end Dion Sims was suspended for an entire season by Mark Dantonio for having been in contact with a stolen computer. Sims was convicted under the same circumstances as Frank Clark (who was not suspended an entire season).
So, yeah, some suspensions do last an entire season, but apparently not at O$U or UM.
Actually Clark's crime was a more serious Home Invasion felony as opposed to Sim's Receiving Stolen Property crime..
Honestly, yes I do. This dates all the way back to Clarett.
I can't stand Ohio State but I 100% despise the skunk bears. They are disgrace to our great state. I would love to see the big hole burn to the ground. I would cry tears of joy if that happened. Onto the subject everyone seems to be discussing they certainly hate us more than O$U. It kills them when we beat them, and like it has been mentioned they all will flat out admit that they would rather beat us in basketball and hockey than they would Ohio State, and most of them would rather beat us in football they just wont admit it. They try so hard to hide it, I once had one of their fans tell me that he valued that Minnesota game more than the MSU game. I know one person who truly would rather beat O$U than us. I know this is a sure thing because he wanted to come to the game against Ohio State at SS this year, I got him a ticket and he even wore an MSU shirt to the game. He is the only fan that would ever do that.
From the blog Dr. Saturday: Maurice Clarett's most recent comments that won't look very good on Ohio State will be passed off by many as the words of someone holding a grudge against his former school, and from someone who is not the most reliable … Continue reading →
At this point it's all media hype. The media makes it a big deal to make money and the fans lap it up. No one can make a serious argument THE GAME actually means much in the big picture with the recent OSU domination.
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THIS. The media is trying to keep this dumb game in everyone's minds hoping that it will actually mean something ever again. Delaney too.
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