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The title was to draw you in.
Look, if this team made 5 more plays (or the refs made the right calls) this year they are 9-1. Would you all still be talking about them the same or would we be talking Rosebowl and how great this team is? Do 5 plays really change your perception of the talent/skill/depth of this team and the ability of the coaching staff so much? I'm no Roushar apologist or anything. I just think people are ready to jump off a cliff when in reality some bounces just didn't go our way this year (and plenty did the past 2 years).
Injuries and slow development on offense crippled us. We are a few plays away from being a disaster as well. Great teams win the close games and this year didn't come together. This is not a bad team just could not close out when it counted and we saw a lack of emotion and coaching break downs that were uncharacteristic compared to previous years. All of it together makes them look bad and it's unfortunate it did not mesh like we thought. Also all the kool aid we drank over the summer makes the team look worse
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Yes. Next question.
"People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care." - Mark Dantonio.
If they can't make those plays this year, in this conference, then yes.
Care to answer the other questions in the OP?
It's a game of inches and our players are 2-4 in win time situations...The problem with that is that this team has the talent to have distanced itself from being in the situation of inches. This team should be 9-1 with a nice margin of victory average.
The reason why this team is in the situation it is is because of the coaching on the offensive side of the ball.
So in your eyes, 5 plays takes them from a great team to a terrible team. Wow...
It would take this team more effort to be at a disaster state than it would to be at 9-1. The coaches failed to develop the offense.
If we can sack Denard or knock down the pass to Dileo, we win. That's one play made.
If we can get the ball in the end zone in the second overtime against Iowa -- or force a turnover on downs after 2nd-and-26 -- we win. That's a play or two made.
If we can get a stop on fourth-and-10 against Nebraska, we win. That's one play made.
We didn't make those plays, and we lost. It's who we are this year. But the "five plays" comment is absolutely true.
(And yes, you can make the counterargument about how close we were to losing a few more games. That's football.)
not another roushar thread
No...they could very easily be 9-1...but they're not. You are what your record says you are.
"I love March!" - Tom Izzo
That is a highly subjective word, but I'd consider 5-5 a disaster at this point.
I just don't agree that 5 plays can turn a team from amazing to horrible. It's the same team, they just didn't make 5 plays that they could have (and those five plays were 3 fg's and two blown calls by the refs).
There will be no coffee in Spartan Stadium on Saturday as coffee is for closers and between the Mildcats and us... Dain't none.
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I can't call this a bad football team with such a great defense.
You are what your record says you are
Our record says we're a competitive team that plays up or down to the level of opponent and struggles to finish close games. Or did you mean something else?
Do you see the position that pputs them in? It goes the other way too. One less play and they could have another loss (Boise St.). And its not just five plays, its that a strong team would have had better control of several games that allegedly came down to one bad play.
They are both not a bad football team and a great defense. They are a very good defense...but great defenses close out games when they have the opportunity. This defense, for the most part, has not.
It's 1/3 of a team. Defense is good enough to win double digit games, the O and Special teams aren't there. You can't win with 1/3 of a team. 2/3 you can get a lot done; see Va. Tech or Tressellball (D and S. Teams).
I think you'll see it be closer to 2/3 of a team with the O coming around over the next 2 games.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
I think an offense that is rated one of the worst in the NCAA is "really that bad".
However, I thought the Nebraska game was an example of what this team could be, and should-have-been, all season long. Unfortunately, MSU got robbed in that game.
Seems this team is have a rough time catching a break this year.
I meant that our record says we're a 5-5 team
I don't buy all that. They gave up 19, 16 and 12 in these games that they "couldn't close out". I don't care if we were up 10-0, then the defense gave up TDs on the last two drives. They still only gave up 14 and it's on the offense. Nebraska game is a unique circumstance, with all the buttholefucking going on.
To be fair...
The Big Ten is really good this year.
Wait a minute...
This stupid argument goes both ways. Yes, MSU could easily be 9-1, but could just as easily be 2-8(See Wisconsin, Boise State and Indiana)
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