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Just watched survive and advance, see a lot of Jimmy v and how he was with his players in Coach Izzo, I'd recommend this episode for any bball fan
Only want Italian Americans as my basketball coach!
I don't think Izzo is going to ever start ignoring his kids and his program in order to advance his non-basketball multi-media career....regardless if what Jim Carty writes.
Izzo doesn't cheat. Please don't compare him to Valvano.
That was an awesome 30 for 30. Defines Cinderella story
Not meaning to speak ill of the dead. . . their is no comparison between Tom and Valvano. I would not have wanted Valvano as the basketball coach at State. Chris Washburn and all of the other Chris Washburn's Valvano recruited at each of his stops is the reason.
just meant how they showed how much he loved his guys
What is the story behind his shady dealings?
Location: Mumbai, India
Let's just put it this way...many of his players throughout his tenure at NC State were functionally illiterate and could barely write their own name.
I'm not comfortable with Izzo being compared to Valvano, either. I don't want to get into it because of the way Valvano is celebrated now and how the V Foundation does help many, but just not a huge fan of the way Valvano did things while he was a coach.
Perhaps the most comprehensibly simple and excellent post I've seen in a long time. +1 to you, sir.
It was just a mistake;
I didn't mean to let them take away my soul.
Am I too old?
Is it too late?
He loved his guys so much that he:
"He was constantly restless. He had spent his life dreaming about winning a national championship and then when he won one at the age of 37, in the most dramatic fashion possible, he felt unfulfilled. You could almost hear the famous line from the old Peggy Lee song, ‘Is that all there is?” playing in his head on a constant loop.
He chased The Next Thing for a while, flying to New York on Monday mornings to appear on CBS’s ‘Early Morning,’ Show; doing color on occasional games IN season; hosting that awful sports bloopers show; doing a pilot for a variety show in Hollywood (seriously); selling memorabilia; becoming the athletic director at State. Anything to avoid being JUST a coach."
- From author John Feinstein
He wasn't personally "shady"...he just "failed" to monitor his program because he was off doing other things instead.
He's the reason why the "Failure to Monitor" infraction exists.
Sorry for the delay in getting back. . . several of our colleagues though have answered the question quite well.
Valvano failed to take care of his kids. Chris Washburn, a 6'11" prep center was the classic example. . . He was a young Shaq back in the 80's who was hotly recruited. Valvano won the recruiting contest and successfully got Washburn and his talents into college. His combined SAT scores back then were 500/1600 where 400 was a 0. Washburn was functionally illiterate, but he was an awesome talent. He hung around NCS and won them some games. . . and was let go. He turned pro, and was like a babe in the woods. Where he acquired his serious drug addiction is a matter for debate. He went to Golden State initially, and I recently remember thinking about his level of preparation there vis a vis Draymond, and all of Tom's efforts in mentoring him. Washburn was eventually suspended many times and disappeared. I later heard he was homeless.
If a coach wants to take a chance on a Chris Washburn. . . a complete and comprehensive academic and social support system with total coach involvement is necessary. It requires discipline, and even then success is highly problematic. And Chris Washburn was the Valvano poster child recruit. Very few Valvano players successfully completed college, or were expected to graduate. But they were great players.
Tom Izzo, whether it be basketball coaching or surrogate parenting gives it his all. I can just imagine all of the time, emotion, and effort that went into his relationship with college graduate to be Derrick Nix and his family over the last 6,7, or 8 years.
Meaning no disrespect to the Jimmy V Foundation. . . but that is why I don't like Valvano compared to Coach Tom Izzo.
This post was edited by whittierspartan 13 months ago
look, i was 3 when they won a title, I dont know much of Valvano other than what ESPN feeds me, that 30 for 30 was about the love of him for those kids and how bonded that team was, that was the ONLY comparison I made. How close he was to that 1983 team and how Izzo is the same way in how he loves his guys (i.e. almost tackling AP for a hug)
Sofa king tired, Bob. New material please.
A lot of it fell by the wayside as his celebrity grew after the NC. Izzo, to his credit, has never let that happen...and is, IMHO much more genuine with the way he treats people.
Valvano paid his due in the small college ranks for about 12 years before getting the NC St. job, and I think he felt that college basketball owed him something, after he reached the pinnacle in 83.
Valvano, to his credit...changed quite a bit after he was let go from NC State in scandal. I think it shocked him and he realized his selfish endeavors had let the kids in his program down over the 10 previous years. This allowed himself to rebuild his reputation and make amends.
And missing free throw story. #justsayin
What is that, a Titleist? A hole in one...
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