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I know for years we ran set plays almost exclusively if the primary and secondary break was stopped, but it seems like we've gone away from that.
We used to crush the league in FG % and assists.
In 2010, we started implementing a "drag motion" offense... After consulting with D'antoni's staff and other NBA'ers.
I didn't see the double curls, the pin downs, much weave, etc this year. Our assists were way down, fg% was down, ppg were down.
Are we still running the "flex motion"?
Anyone else think its time to get back to the set plays? If the primary look was denied this year, our guard over dribbled for 15-18 seconds before running a dump down pass, back out to a guard for a contested J or similar (if the interior iso broke down).
I think Izzo focuses on fundamentals and defense before he tries to get his offense doing advanced stuff. Next year could be really good if guys come back,
I take it you did not follow the team much this year .
A lot of it has to do with the passing abilities of our point guards. Neither Appling (nor Lucas) had a good feel for getting the ball to the right guy. This is why the offense looks better when it goes through Nix or Trice or Valentine. Obviously we can go a long way with PG like that, but they have to be able to score like Lucas was able to.
We run almost all sets, so that isn't the problem.
This post was edited by BlakeStSpartan 13 months ago
The decision to basically not defend the three will work against teams that don't have NBA caliber point guards or wings. Seth curry took advantage of that and had his way knocking down three after three. I know Izzo want's rebounds, but that strategy doesn't work against Duke or any other blue blood like NC when they have their players unless you are turning them over like he did in 2005. Duke had something like 18 turnovers that game.
Keeping the sunshiners in check since 2000.
he's talking about offense brah
MSU led the B1G in 3pfg defense this season. I know this is your basketball version of Wheel Route, but you're incorrect here.
Anyone. Anyplace. Anytime.
Seth curry went 4 of 7 from there point line. He was wide open all night. . But it doesn't matter hater you're young to find away to attack and being a funking dick no matter what. Crawl,back into your hole in the basement.
You don't know a goddamn thing about basketball. Shut up.
The entire offense this year was dump it down to Nix then stand around.
Curry always pushes off that's why he was open
We went away from sets this year, and it showed in the lack of assists.
I agree about the PG - need a true PG, but we also have to make work with what we have.
If app is really the problem, the let trice play the 1, and app the 2 more often. We never see that though - why not?
Also, the PPTPW philosophy is bogging down. We need shooters. We can't have 3 players on the court at a given time who can't create or shoot from more than 3' away. It causes a log jam in the middle as teams sag way of the guards.
As far the the offensive gameplan goes....It is fine. If you have shooters on the wings, Izzo has zero problem taking quick shots if guys can actually shoot it. Problem is Izzo had literally 1 guy who could hit anything outside of 15 ft this season.
The PG spot is also a downgrade from previous years and was a problem as he missed a lot of open guys in transition throughout the year. It it what it is right now and the fact that the Dawson class only had 2 guys left is a huge problem. Who knows what Anderson would have been but as far as wing players Izzo is down in the dumps right now.
Exactly. And he was a better passer his soph/junior year, than his senior year.
He would get the pass and wait and wait and wait before making a move. He was best when he made a quick move, but in reality, he waited for the double and was slow to find the open guy.
All I know is our "point guards" Appling, Trice and Valentine had 0 assists against Duke.
That is very concerning
We have no shooting. scUM and Duke can drain. That is why we are watching them on tv.
We need to focus on skill development on offense. Dawson needs to improve his ball handling so he can take people off the dribble and not have so many turnovers. Valentine must be able to hit open perimeter shots. Gary Harris needs to get his off the dribble game improved. In general we need to become a better passing team. If we don't improve on those areas we will be prone to long offensive droughts.
On defense I don't think we should rely on help defense as much. I'd like to see more ball pressure and perimeter pass denial. This is what you see out of Duke. In today's college basketball you would rather have players taking contested mid range jumpers or even floaters in the lane than a three where a guy has his feet set. Today's players just don't have that midrange game that can consistently hurt you.
Chris Allen and korie lucious started the decline. Parker would have resurrected .
This post was edited by Tanfan 13 months ago
That's because they threw the ball to Nix and Harris and Dawson, who couldn't hit a thing.
It was just a mistake;
I didn't mean to let them take away my soul.
Am I too old?
Is it too late?
Michigan State defends the three. We have been for the past two seasons one of the best teams at defending the three by % allowed.
Granted it is nice to complain about losing to only elite level teams, but things have to change on some level. Not major shifts in philosophy, but certain things have to improve. Unforced turnovers, perimeter shooting, developing better 1 on 1 players, and eliminating stupid fouls are a starting point.
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