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There's been a lot of prattling on around here about how season ticket sales will go in the shitter ( ) if Roushar isn't gone. It's been established that I want that asshat gone, so I'm certainly not advocating for his return. But let's assume he's going to be back (I'd put those odds at 95%), will ticket sales REALLY drop?
This has been a painful season. I've personally witnessed only one win in person (Wisconsin) and four losses. And they've been excruciating. But honestly, as I look at this from a personal level, I still love being at MSU football games too much to be in on some kind of boycott. Couple that with the fact that many long-term MSU fans are so very well accustomed to mediocrity that I don't see one bad season causing them to give up.
That said, mediocrity after success is a MUCH tougher pill to swallow, as someone brought up in another thread.
How many season ticket holders on here will ACTUALLY not renew next year if Roushar is back?
Most of the people around me yesterday were not paying attention to the game.
so, do you actively hope that season ticket sales will drop?
We've got depth. We've got numbers.
You also need to factor in the terrible home schedule for the next two years in addition to the increased donation requirements.
Yes the diehards will always be there but the bandwagon fans who bought this year due to recent success and a great home schedule aren't likely to renew. Also brokers may be dropping tons of season tickets with the unattractive home schedule.
Here is the bigger problem:
How many of those will be $80 premium games?
versus how many tickets will be available for $20?
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I'll get tickets again. I think we could actually win a few of these games.
Personally, I see the football team as the most exposed part of the university. They are the face of the school, whether that's fair or not. I'll support the team 100% as long as the coaching staff maintains the respectability of the school and the program mentors the young men who put in an absurd amount of hours towards their craft.
I'm moving back to MI in a few months and I will be buying season tickets for sure next year. Completely understand if others do not, however.
what were ticket sales after 2009? Shut up and show up to the damn games
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With the economy so lousy some people can't afford to keep their season tickets. Plus this has been a terrible season. We were picked as a top team and our defense is top notch, but our offense is beyond belief bad. If you just come to watch us win you will stop coming.
Absolutely they will. Terrible performance this year leaves a bad taste in people's mouth and next year's home schedule is pretty bad. After 6 years of having season tickets, I will consider not renewing.
If asked, I bet a lot of people could not name our OC. I don't think him staying will have as big an impact as our poor record and mediocre schedule next year.
do you not like MSU now?
Had this team been remotely good (8 wins) I would have said the program had evolved to where going to games are about MSU as opposed to the game (opponent).
However, this team has underperformed beyond anyone's imagination. This team has hurt the program as it has lowered the bar back to SOS levels. So i expect the ticket sales will suffer considerably. I will get tickets and donate, because I love MsU and this program, but I'm not the fan that our AD needs to worry about...rather the casual fan.
Some of the people on here won't. They'll then buy individual tickets if things start going well.
Many of the season ticket holders are legacies and families for whom MSU football is part of their lifestyle. They've seen far worse than this and aren't going anyplace.
The people who joined in this year may leave in a good number, but they aren't the majority.
Anyone. Anyplace. Anytime.
I think most renew. The team is still good (13 points margin in 5 frickin losses) and people are committed to the program. It'll take 2 years to see a significant drop off.
Don't think -- it can only hurt the ballclub
UM should be the only premium game there. USF is not good. Minny and IU could be interesting games, but not for casual fans.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
The fact that UM can pack their stadium regularly kind of flies in the face of the whole "the economy sucks" argument.
Yea, we plan on keeping ours (5 years and counting). We're trying to move up in seats/location/seniority, so I'll welcome the chance to move closer to the 50 if people start dropping. It's a long term investment.
Rodkey, correct me if I'm wrong but we sold out the 65K season tickets this season with the amazing home schedule (which we promptly shit the bed with). A 10% reduction means a reduction of 6500 season ticket packages. With the crappy home schedule next season I think a 10% drop in season tickets is quite possible no matter what Dantonio does with Roushar, especially after this season's shit show.
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this, especially since a majority of their fanbase aren't exactly doctors and engineers...
The brokers will almost certainly drop their tickets, so that's 3k there. I think the average fan, who doesn't post on message boards, which makes up 99% of the season ticket base will renew. I don't think they go through the schedules like we do. Even if they do they'll see Michigan at home before they notice the rest of the schedule. We had a bad year, but the program is still way better off then the BW and JLS eras.
So to answer your question, I'd say about a 5% drop mostly due to brokers. Hopefully they have some deals for young alumni and bring the family section back and put it in the East upper deck to make up for that.
I'd call the 2011 sales number the over/under. If they get to a bowl and win, I'd say over, not, then under.
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...or high school graduates.
I think your #s are correct.
Any chance they get rid of the seat license/ "donation" for next season?
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