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okay... lets say it was the other way round.... and the kid wasn't down, goes for the TD, but the whistle had blown..... the play would have been called dead... no challege allowed....
thats okay cause it would have gone the lions way... right????
scream at the rule... by all means.... but if they don't blow the whistle it can be challenge or automatically challenged... you just cant do both!
I know. I am just saying, if we had scored on that play would u be complaining that he shouldnt have been down? Cant complain when rules only work against you. This is the opposite of OSU play and he wasnt called down. People are complaining. In the osu game he was called down and people were complaining then
I have an MBA...Master at Being Amazing
"is that a franchise LT? You bet!" Yeah except he just got owned by a CB because he couldn't control where he was blocking him lol. Dude is sucking his dick on a bad play.
So if the lions score a TD, which looks like it might be overturned on review, can they negate the review by throwing a challenge flag on their own TD?
We are owed a few make up calls... Yet to see those
This is correct. I don't know how many times I've been pissed at refs for not erring on the side of caution with plays like that. When it's close at all, don't blow the whistle. Think back to the fumble against Ohio State (at least I think it was the OSU game). We were all mad that the touchdown didn't count because the refs blew the whistle.
That being said, worst rule ever that the challenge flag thrown means the play can't be reviewed.
The auto-review on a scoring play should automatically trump an incidental red flag by a coach who threw it because he thought the refs were going to screw him.
LOL at Forsett on that list.
Okay, that's a different argument then. In general, it's a fallacy to say that people can only choose "always blow the whistle" or "always let the play go" (I think "just make the correct damn call" would be better). That said, if you're asking which way I would prefer officials to lean, yeah, I'd prefer that they let plays go as long as there's the potential for the play to be reversed. But absolutely NONE of that means that we haven't earned the right to complain about the atrocious officiating this year.
Can someone give me a synopsis of the Titus Young sitch? Where is he?
Hide yo quarterbackz, hide yo kidz, the MSU defense is here
Well, Miller was at a 90 degree angle to the ground when the ball came out, he wasn't even falling down when they called him down. But ya, I can see how it is pretty much exactly the same...
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I think I've heard this somewhere before...
Let Hanson punt
Don't forget that these toolbags already messed up the call on the Txans return that should have went to the Lions.
Or just call the penalty, but don't take away the ability to review the play. Penalty and instant replay should be viewed separately. One is to penalize, the other is to correct mistakes. Part of the penalty should never be to take away the chance to correct a referee mistake.
"People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care." - Mark Dantonio.
Now that's a cheap shot
Great point. But....that makes too much sense.
Exactly, that's the stupid part of the rule
Just get in FG range already!
Nope, will take a terrible sack
Watt is such a manimal. CMU really fucked up there
Nice punt. Time for that D-Line to eat.
Just F'in grand. They were just inside Hanson's range and then Stafford gets sacked. Unfuckingbelievable.
Stafford is playing like a moron. Sacked out of FG twice.
Actually, now that I think about it, I at least understand the purpose of the rule, even though I don't agree at all. I think the idea is that by faux-challenging the play, you can artificially give the booth more time to decide whether or not to review. You can easily argue that the 15-yard penalty already acts as a deterrent, but I guess the league assumes that any coach would give up 15 yards to take 7 points off the board, so they wanted a stronger stick.
All that said: wtf, NFL. Would it really be that bad to actually allow coaches to use one of their challenges on the play? Automatic and coach review are not exclusive.
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