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1. Mathew Stafford
2. Mitch Mustain
4. Josh Freeman
8. Chris Smelley
11. Greg McElroy
12. Sam Bradford
14. Christian Ponder
23. Andy Dalton
34. Colin Kaepernick
Biggest Whiffs coming from guys that wound up going to B1G schools
3. Isiah Williams-Illinois
5. Pat Devlin-PSU
21. Brett Bracett-PSU
22. Arvill Nelson-Iowa
33. David Cone-Michigan
This post was edited by WBill19542 18 months ago
This is a pretty random thread.
I don't think you can consider Juice Williams a whiff. Dude was a stud in college.
David Cone, on the other hand, couldn't even crack the Stephen-Threet-vs.-guy-who-wasn't-Stephen-Threet rotation at Michigan.
4 1st rounders and 2 second rounders out of that class, including 2 #1 overall. Not bad
Go Bears, Blackhawks, White Sox, and Pioneers.
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand
Well, out of the top 10, two QBs ended up being NFL starters. and then Ponder (starter), Bradford (starter) and McElroy (backup) were in the top 15.
After that the only hits were Dalton and Kaepernick who weren't particularly highly ranked. So considering all the analysts' talk that recruits are ranked on NFL potential, do you think these rankings are a success or no? Obviously there are many confounding variables here and not everyone can be a hit, but is hitting on 5 of the top 15 considered a success for the crapshoot that is recruiting rankings?
Juice Williams doesn't belong on a list with those other 4. I don't remember him being that bad.
Was linked to it from a story that Nevada was the only school that offered Kaepernick a football scholarship. And they thought he would play safety.
ND offered him a partial scholarship to play baseball.
Good god, look at the 2007 class. Huge fail.
Yeah, if they would have listed his name as "Juice" in the rankings, I would have figured that out.
#17 dual threat in that class: Connor Dixon
I count one guy in the top 25 that even started one NFL game and one other that played in the NFL. There have been more starts from guys 30-35 than all other slots combined and Lindley's starts were an affront to nature.
2006, 6 NFL starters, 1 NFL backup
2007, 3 NFL backups
Foles at #30 is the best pro prospect.
05 is just as bad, Sanchez #1 pro, Colt McCoy only other name I see in there at quick glance that made the NFL
edit: this guy's name is great
Jimmy Johns Player Profile, Stats, and recruiting information on Yahoo! Sports.
This post was edited by Yellowledbetter 18 months ago
It's fun to look at all the nobodies ranked in front of guys like Greg Jones, Jerel Worthy and LeVeon.
Just going through the years, the QB position seems to be fairly unpredictable. Usually around 3-4 guys in top 10 who make noise in college and 1-2 in the NFL.
Another good name...
33 Nathan Dick QB
Leader for one of the top teams in the Metroplex.
There are more starts from the top 2 in the 2007 dual-threat list than everyone else in that class combined.
Clint Brewster, now of Wolverine247 employment, is on that list.
Not listed: Kirk Cousins
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
Juice Williams was not a bust. Pat Devlin was not a bust. He is on the Dolphins roster, just had to transfer to Delaware in order to play and get seen. He was never Penn State's QB, but the guy made it to the NFL so that's not really a bust to me. Juice Williams was a productive QB and was in a Rose Bowl, so that's not really a bust to me either.
Never heard of Bracett, Nelson or Cone. Did Cone even end up signing with Michigan? Seriously never heard of the kid.
For Rivals, this is actually a really good list. Other years it's a complete and shameful whiff, but that's the nature of the game.
Cone sat behind Sherridan and Threet in Rich Rod's first year. No idea what happened to him after Forcier and Robinson got on campus.
This post was edited by Seer 18 months ago
Juice was benched as a senior on an awful UofI team....
Devlin wasn't a bust. He went to Delaware, did a great job, and unlike Mitch Mustain, he's on an NFL roster right now.
Mustain went from Arkansas to USC, where he sat on the bench, barely even had the backup job. Now he's a reliever A Ball.
I love this kind of stuff.
Check out the Elite 11 history:
Looking back on this list, Mustain had tough company. I moved to Fort Worth for work in 2004 and started doing some scouting work for Auburn around Dallas/Fort Worth/Plano in the summer of 06 after Stafford, McElroy, Ponder and Stephens were all highly-touted seniors within the general vicinity and among the Top 20 QBs in the country. Stafford was unreal at Skyline. Watched three or four of his games and he was off the charts in all of them. Unfortunately for Tommy and AU, they had to play him in 07 and 08 despite Georgia being in the East.
This post was edited by Lunchables 18 months ago
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