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this is a "dumb post of the year nominee"
And who is "most of us?"
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I agree with the dentist on this one.
Your gratitude is nice. Monetary compensation would be better. My sacrifice is on your behalf RP.
"losing Caleb Benenoch is a blow that Dantonio will never recover from. Izzo has lost it as well. Hoke and Beilein own the state."
What I don't get is how any Big Ten hockey program can have a worse conference record than a MAC school or a school like Ferris State, etc. That is unbelievable to me. The Big Ten resources and power should always provide a competitive advantage. Is it all coaching?
At these lower MAC schools, hockey is king, and the players are treated like gods. At MSU, football and hoops will always be more important.
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Living in K Zoo I would say the hockey team is the biggest thing on Westerns campus. I can't imagine what kind of tail the Miami kids can pull in.
This post was edited by Eggy 15 months ago
Yea!!! Boston university should be worse than penn st next year because PSU is in the BIG.
But to seriously answer your question, yes, coaching is a key component as to why the program is where it is. That's why Rick comley is no longer here.
This post was edited by Rogue Leader 15 months ago
2007 championship was a hot goalie, 2 NHL-caliber players, and yes some luck -- never had to play any of the western teams in the tournament. BC, Maine, Notre Dame and Huntsville, I think.
Hockey is very different. Ferris was in the national championship game last spring against Boston College. Historically, teams like MSU and Michigan did dominate the CCHA but as of today, the top 10 in the country are:
5. Notre Dame
6. North Dakota
8. Miami of Ohio
9. Boston Uni
10. Western Michigan
College hockey is just different.
EDIT: Oh, and 11-13 is Dartmouth, Yale and Nebraska-Omaha. Niagara is also in there.
This post was edited by All Ages Shows 15 months ago
Nope. Boston University instead of Huntsville, #1 Notre Dame, Maine and the hottest team in the country, BC who were on something like a 13 game win streak.
It is a huge disservice to that team to say that it was due to a "hot goalie." That has always bothered me as we were not outplayed in any of those games. The team was playing its best hockey at the right time.
Why people try to diminish such a great moment for our program has always been beyond me.
A National Championship is going on a end of season winning streak after qualifying for the tournament. Every team that does that has some puck luck, a hot goalie and sometimes some upsets on the other side of the bracket and its still damned hard to do.
Take off your hair shirt and admit that team played their asses off and won it all that year.
Still better than Comley.
Because I don't like hockey...?
as long as they beat scUM. otherwise can care less
This is what I will miss most about the CCHA. The fact that MSU can have a significant and real rivalry with an instate school like Western or another small school is what made college hockey unique to me. I could care less about Penn State or Wisky, but some of those intense Saturday night battles years ago against Lake State (& BG in the 80's) were great.
A few thoughts....
- The team is very young this year and it's no-doubt a rebuilding year. The team had some talent last year and Anastos did well. But that masked the reality of the rebuilding job that was needed with the program. Anastos and his staff have shown they can coach the game. The question remains whether he can attract the right student-athlete to East Lansing and develop them into top-level Division I players committed to a system. Patience is required, for the first time in a long time with Spartan hockey, and this has to be seen through the lens of a 5-year project.
- Munn is in need of some investment. But it is neither an advantage or disadvantage at this point for Anastos. Our peer programs are improving facilities, investing in their coaching staffs, spending the resources needed to remain competitive, and seeing income streams to support that investment. The game at the elite level requires further commitment from the athletic department, which I believe we'll see eventually.
- I'm going to miss the CCHA as it was a collection of programs based in hockey. The new Big Ten conference will be competitive and rivalries will be built. But seeing a Lake State, Northern, and Miami mixing it up with bigger-named schools like State and Michigan reflected the reality of collegiate hockey. In terms of who State plays, in some ways the Big Ten hockey conference will merely be comparable by replacing Notre Dame and Miami with Minnesota and Wisconsin, especially given recent years. It's time for a Big Ten hockey conference, but I have mixed emotions about it.
- Anyone who suggests that the 2007 title was a fluke or the result of a hot goaltender didn't watch hockey that post-season. I saw State in all four tournament games. The team trailed in every game and showed incredible resiliency and work ethic. Oddly perhaps, the team was never able to show that consistency during the season, or frankly during the Comley years. But for a 4-game stretch, it all game together with the team being underdogs in every game. Criticism of Comley and that era is fair when you express frustration with consistency, cohesiveness, and results reflective of talent. But that title was hard-earned and should be a source of pride for any Spartan.
As always, go State!
This post was edited by Heathens 87 15 months ago
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Thank you for your incredibly thoughtful and insightful contribution to this discussion.
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this. a 6 team league is lame.
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Agreed. I'll freely admit, I'm a casual college hockey fan. I certainly don't have the insight you or All Ages and others have on college hockey. Maybe you could answer a couple questions I have going forth about the B1G hockey conference.
-What is the schedule going to look like? How many games are we going to play in conference?
-Any chance that other B1G teams take the very expensive plunge to get their team to varsity status? I know Illinois, Indiana, Rutgers (maybe others) have club teams, but could you see any of them making the difficult leap? Six teams just seems too small, even if it is allowed by the NCAA.
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Best guesses for you:
1. I would assume a 20 game conference schedule (2 home, 2 away)
2. I think you'll see a few more BIG schools make the leap in the next decade or so. Illinois, Iowa, and Indiana have, IMO, no reason for not establishing programs. All those schools are in the heart of USHL/NAHL country and have fanbases big enough to support hockey. Nebraska-Omaha having a program may preclude UN from starting up, but i'm not sure the exact relationship between UNO and UN.
Your thinking is wrong.
This post was edited by Foxbat 15 months ago
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I think this is what they are aiming for. It will allow for some pretty cool non-con options, though.
I am not into a B1G hockey conference. Like others have said, 6 teams is just too small and we already play 2 of those teams every year. It will be cool playing Minnesota more and to a lesser extent, Wisky, but slugging it out with teams like NMU and LSSU were a part of what made college hockey unique.
I just find the CCHA to be far more interesting.
The only thing i am truly excited about is a more extensive non-conference schedule. It will be cool playing more teams that we don't ever really see. I am also hoping we can keep some of the CCHA rivalries alive with it but I am not counting on that.
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