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Anastos could turn out just fine. I'm not cheering against him, by any means.
He handles everything about his job (media, PR, charity stuff) perfectly. But Comley wasn't bad at that either. Everyone unfairly compared Comley to Mason and now they're unfairly giving Anastos a pass when they were hanging Comley.
I'm interested in perspective and solutions. The people who offer those things know what's going on, imo.
It also wouldn't surprise me a bit if Comley and Anastos both end up with the same record of achievements in conference play and NCAA tournament outcomes. And if that does happen I'd call Tom Anastos a success. The interesting question is: will anyone else here?
Are you me?
It was just a mistake;
I didn't mean to let them take away my soul.
Am I too old?
Is it too late?
Comley was at Michigan State for 9 years, won a national title, 4 NCAA appearances, and overall has two NCAA titles and is 4th all-time in collegiate hockey victories. Rick Comley doesn't need anyone's opinion or praise to stand with the elite in the sport. But there's comes a time when even great coaches reach a point when it's time to move on. And to be fair to Anastos, despite how it ended in East Lansing for Comley, to have the career Rick had is a damn high bar. Anastos is inheriting a rebuilding project in a time of change in the sport. Comley was brought in for one reason - win the title that had been eluding Mason in his later years. He did it but it became clear the chances of getting back to that point was moving further and further away. Anastos has the same goals as Comley - compete for conference titles, make the NCAA tournament, run a program that is well supported and reflects positively on Michigan State.
Rick got four years post-title to show the program was getting back to that point. Anastos has a similar window to hit his goals........
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." --Gandhi
This guy got downvoted like crazy two weeks ago, but when do we start really looking at Anastos and stop putting the blame on Comley? MSU hockey is awful.
Next year or 2. He took over a dumpster fire and people want him canned in year two. This is the same bs that would've resulted in Izzos firing and narruzzi being elsewhere because people freaked out in 09. Msu hockey has a dozen freaking freshman, after years of recruiting atrophy under Comley it's asinine to judge the program 1.5 years into a new regime. I'll be the first to grab my torch and pitchfork in 2015 if this program is still in the basement.
This post was edited by Rogue Leader 14 months ago
"losing Caleb Benenoch is a blow that Dantonio will never recover from. Izzo has lost it as well. Hoke and Beilein own the state."
I agree that it's probably too soon to completely jump on Anastos but comparing it to Izzo's second year is really unfair. Izzo didn't finish last in the conference, and his team had some fight in it. Plus Izzo had experience as an assistant at the level he was coaching.
only difference was izzo knew how to coach basketball and you didn't see mistake after mistake on the coaching end. Building us back up will take time but I'm slightly concerned about what we're seeing on the ice now. I don't think we have last place talent or a last place team. There is no way we should be having a season this atrocious. Our PP is broke as hell and yet nothing has been done to fix it. We can't even gain the zone on a lot of possessions and that's something that's pretty simple to fix if you have a coach that knows how to fix it and players that can listen and adjust accordingly. It's going to be a really tough sell to get the guys you need to compete on a national level after this year. I love MSU to death and have known nothing but MSU since birth but if I had other offers I don't think I'd be at MSU
There is no reason that Western and Ferris have programs on the upswing and MSU is in the basement. No excuse at all. Everyone in the program and Hollis need to take a look in the mirror.
Right. Izzo was never called "fizzo" and nobody ever said "MSU should never lose to detroit with a good coach. "
Oh and Izzo took over from Jud Heathcote, not Rick freaking Comley.
Very good recruiting class coming in next year, plus the dozen freshmen will be sophomores. They should continue to improve.
I watch a lot of CCHA hockey and I think you're wrong. Michigan State is a very young team. There is talent that needs to develop, but it's clear that the team has neither the speed or physicality to match-up well with any team in the league. They're relying on 100% effort, which they're giving, but that's not enough in a rather deep CCHA.
The best in the league right now is Miami, which has been there for the past decade and they've re-loaded. Western is solid and experienced, as are Notre Dame and Ferris. If those teams surprise you, you haven't been watching much college hockey in recent years. And there is always the shock team, which is Alaska right now. They're in the hunt for a NCAA bid (sitting at 12 in the Pairwise today). There's a pack of competitive teams and this year's league really doesn't feature those 1-2 teams who are over-matched. Bowling Green is doing well under former Miami assistant Bergeron, Northern Michigan is top 20 in the Pairwise, etc. It's a deep league for 2012-13.
Young legs can hit a wall in the second-half as the physicality of the college game, the reality of balancing hockey, school, and life, and the grind of a season become all too real. It's a disappointing season as the team hasn't caught any breaks to allow their record to look better than it does, but we're not losing games this year because of coaching. We're in last place because that's reflective of the talent and ability of this team. If Anastos can keep them playing hard until the end, that's his job. And then, as we've known all along, he needs to bring better hockey talent, better student-athletes, and kids who are invested in his system if he's going to succeed. Rebuilding jobs aren't judged in year two, at least not fairly......
Have you seen this team play in person? I have and they are seriously lacking talent. There is no speed and no offense. I can't speak for Anastos' coaching ability but he's behind the 8 ball here. His recruit in goal is exceptional by the way.
who's part of this very good recruiting class?
stenglein and cox. who else is supposed to be good?
This post was edited by Big Fella 14 months ago
How's that Tom Crean hire working out? Lol!
Did I miss the part where MSU got put on sanctions?
The top target in recruiting efforts was Mackenzie MacEachern. He's already drafted by the NHL and is set to play for State next year. From scouting reports, he's a collegiate-ready scorer who should be able to impact the game immediately. The team lacks offensive punch. MacEachern, by all accounts, should be a great addressing of that need......
The Michigan State hockey team is looking rather youthful these days. With ten letter winners gone from last season, head coach Tom Anastos has been l
This post was edited by Heathens 87 14 months ago
I've followed him this year...he's not going to solve our scoring problems. He can't score in the USHL
No you missed the part where MSU hockey hired its equivalent to richrod.
Comley at least won a title, so I wouldn't compare him to Rich Rod. Hiring Anastos was risky. I think it's OK for people to question it when MSU is last in the CCHA.
This post was edited by Giant Moose 14 months ago
So you've gone from not knowing who we're recruiting to actually following State's top recruit in the USHL?! I think I'm going to just go ahead and trust that Anastos understands his position and what he needs to do, and that the St. Louis Blues might see something in him that you don't given that he went with the 67th pick out of high school....
Two years into an obvious rebuilding job (a dozen freshman is an astonishingly high number and indicative of the roster left behind) when some smaller or historically less significant programs are at the top of their game then no, it's absolutely not ok and quite detrimental to be bringing up the possibility of regime change. Anastos actually acknowledges that honeybaked exists, there's a step in the right direction with little effort.
no I just didn't know everyone was figuring on him being our main piece of a "great" class. I've been following those 3 this year and was curious who the others were that were supposed to make this a great class hence me asking "who else is going to be good"? didn't think he was the answer I was going to get. He's got 2 points in the last 2 months. My brother played against him while he was at Brother Rice and the kid could score then but scoring in high school is easy. Hell, even I put up a lot of points in high school and I'm not good. He'll be a solid player but he's not going to be this savior scoring punch everyone seems to think he is. I think stenglein will actually be a better player
more like Muddy Waters.
Actually, there are several reasons in WMU's case anyway, and Ferris to some extent. The university is more committed to college hockey than any other sport and Kalamazoo is a huge hockey town. It's the only high-profile sport that WMU has a realistic shot at winning a national championship in, so the enthusiasm and backing of the program by students, alums and the community has grown to levels not rivaled by many other college hockey programs. WMU was really a sleeping giant in that way and it was finally awoken with the firing of Culhane and hiring of a guy who is likely going to be the next head coach of the Red Wings. Follow that with a serious financial investment into a successful long-time NHL coach behind the bench, who now pretty much gets the pick of the litter when it comes to recruiting, and you can see the results in the league standings and national polls.
I really think MSU's recent success in football and the hoops program has kind of overshadowed the hockey program and there just isn't the same enthusiasm and interest for the sport at State as there once was. Maybe a new arena or serious upgrades to Munn would help solve that and inject some new energy into MSU hockey? I don't know.
As it stands right now, if a top-tier recruit has to decide who to play for between Murray and Anastos, and then takes weekend series visits to Lawson and Munn, there's no question what uniform he's going to choose to put on. And the BIG hockey conference really is no more attractive to a Canadian junior player than the NCHC or Hockey East. All the leagues will get plenty of TV exposure with national and regional contracts. And the NCHC and HE are filled with schools like WMU and Ferris where hockey is king over all else, which is something that should never be underestimated.
you mean you didn't hire a commissioner to rebuild your hockey team? what were you thinking
and i've said that bit about atmosphere and facilities forever
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