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People who think hiring a commissioner with no experience was a bad idea vs. people who still blame Comley for everything wrong with the hockey program is always fun!
Lucky for you, later on he had the nerve to praise his hero Comley again.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. - Frank Leahy.-- If you're going to be stupid, be smart about it. - Mike Milbury
Hey, now. You're forgetting Eddie Smith and Kirk Gibson.
All right, you said most.
Thank you, Denicos.
Some B1G tournament information. Basically confirming what we already know.
Xcel Energy Center and the Big Ten announced Tuesday that All-Session Ticket Package Reservations for the inaugural 2014 Big Ten Men's Ice Hockey Tournament, to be held Thursday - Saturday, March 20 - 22, 2014, will go on sale at 11 a.m. ET on Monday, March 25.
I find it interesting, and somewhat disheartening, that all the B10 Hockey info seems to come from Penn State.
It's the first story on the Big Ten home page.
Xcel Energy Center and the Big Ten announced today that All-Session Ticket Package Reservations for the inaugural 2014 Big Ten Men's Ice Hockey Tournament, to be held Thursday - Saturday, March 20 - 22, 2014, will go on sale at 10 a.m. CT on Monday, March 25.
Should I, then, blame A. Allen for going to the gopsusports.com page for the story? I think I'll just leave it alone.
Beats the other type of news that's usually breaking in happy valley
"losing Caleb Benenoch is a blow that Dantonio will never recover from. Izzo has lost it as well. Hoke and Beilein own the state."
Six teams in the playoffs seems to be similar the way the CCHA held their tournament many years ago.
Those are last year's numbers, too. Average crowd improved by 500 per game this year. MSU finished eighth in the nation at 5,869 per game, first in the CCHA, and third in the B1G.
Minnesota -- 9,950
Wisconsin -- 9,521
Michigan State -- 5,869
Michigan -- 5,357
Ohio State -- 4,004
Penn State -- 1,729
Penn State is still playing in their old arena with a 1,300 capacity.
The Pegula Palace opens next season. It will, by far, be the nicest facility in the conference. Also, if they get it filled, that student section will be terrifying.
Construction on the Pegula Ice Arena is progressing steadily. Here's a sneak peek.
Have you been to Mariucci Arena in Minnesota? Or the Kohl Center in Madison? Or even Value City Arena in Columbus? I honestly think those 3 compare with anything they're building at Penn State. You can throw out Value City Arena if you want as being too "professional" and because they only average 4,000 people in a 17,500 seat arena, it'll never feel like a big time hockey arena. It still have some of the best training facilities, suites, locker rooms, etc around.
Mariucci Arena is probably the greatest college hockey rink I've ever seen (I've heard great things about The Ralph in Grand Forks, but I haven't had the chance to see a game there in person). 10,000 seats, all one bowl, no entrance tunnels in the lower bowl (like you find in a lot of professional arenas). When they get 10,000 people in the building, it's one of the loudest venues I've ever heard.
The Kohl Center is great for hockey, but I think it's just a little too big. When they won the national championship (I want to say it was 2006), they used to get 13,000-14,500 every game and the place was rocking. They did a great job building the third level directly on top of the 2nd level, so no one is too far away from the surface and gives it kind of an old barn feeling (like the old Boston Garden where the upper level was directly above the lower level seats) It's not quite the same with only 9,000 people in attendance, but it's still a great facility.
My only problem with Pegula is it's size. They're effectively spending $90 million to build a fancy version of Munn. I know it's a huge upgrade from the 1400 seat Penn State Ice Pavilion, but it's still just a 6,000 seat arena. The locker rooms, training rooms, suites, etc will be nice, but in the long run, it's hard to compete with the larger arenas in Madison and Minneapolis.
Oh, and all of that being said, they'll all be better when compared to most of the east coast arenas that are old and barely hold 3,000 people (if that).
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I don't think 6,000 is a big detriment considering they are a new program. Also, PSU is in the middle of nowhere along with the typical weather you get in Pennsylvania during the hockey season means they won't have a lot of fans from the heavily-populated areas of the state regularly attending games.
Oh no, I actually agree with you. I realize the tone of my post might not get that across. It makes sense for Penn State to build the arena they did. While it's great that they were over capacity (on average) this year, it doesn't mean 10,000 people are going to start attending every Penn State hockey game. It makes a ton of sense for them to build the 6,000 seat arena. Honestly though, if the program does well, I think they're going to wish they had 9,000-10,000 seats in their building and not 6,000. The locker rooms and training facilities (and coaches of course) are probably more important than the size of the arena to most recruits
We all like to think and dream big, but there's a reality and business to these numbers.
It's pretty much a rule now that you build sports facilities to your average crowd size. Players, coaches, and administrators would rather play in a sold-out building with scarcity then a half-empty building with availability for "if we get really good and can sell more tickets."
Minnesota, who was ranked in the top five all season and has a well-followed program, did not average a sell-out this season in their 10,000-seat arena.
Given that only Minnesota and Wisconsin averaged more than 6,000 fans per game in the B1G and only four schools in Division I averaged more than 7,000, I think Penn State is making the smart decision to cap things at around 6,000 plus. They'll still be one of the 15 largest arenas in Division I.
Here are the most recent or planned buildings in college hockey and percent capacity based on 2012-13 attendance:
Nebraska-Omaha -- 7,500 (96%)
Notre Dame -- 5,000 (97.7%)
Boston University -- 6,221 (72.8%)
Minnesota-Duluth -- 6,600 (94.0%)
Miami -- 3,200 (93.9%)
This post was edited by Johnny B 13 months ago
6,000 is the perfect size for a college arena. It will still be mostly full in down years and will be a tough ticket to find in good years which creates a buzz. If a state like minnesota, where hockey is king of all, cant fill a 10,000 seat arena then it's unlikely anyone else would need one.
Agreed. Schools have to be realistic about what the sport of college hockey is capable of drawing. Nothing is worse than sitting in a big arena that holds 15,000+, and even with a decent crowd of 5000, the atmosphere is nil (see Ohio State). Better to have a smaller arena, higher percentages of seats filled, and create an atmosphere that people want to be part of and one that helps the team. I've been to a number of college and OHL arenas....I'd take damn near all of them over a big NHL-style arena........
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." --Gandhi
Per MSU hockey's Twitter, MSU will play Boston University and Massachusetts-Lowell next season.
I take it, as repayment for the 2008 series at Munn, the UML series will be on the road.
Is it two with both UML and BU?
This makes sense. I think we'll see more Hockey East teams in non-conference schedules.
HEA, along with the ECAC, only have 22 conference games. Hockey East will go to a two-games-per-opponent conference schedule next season when they add Notre Dame and Connecticut. This is to save travel costs of adding Notre Dame. One school--Maine, I think--claims traveling to South Bend for a weekend series will cost them $50,000.
NCHC released their composite schedule today. Some tidbits:
Fri, 11/22 - MSU vs. WMU
Sat, 11/23 - MSU @ WMU
MSU, UM, Michigan Tech and WMU playing in the GLI the weekend of 12/27 and 12/28
This post was edited by DrVan Nostrand1 13 months ago
Interesting. I thought that home-and-homes would be the more likely route. Disappointed to not see Miami playing either State or Michigan, but they're playing Ohio State and Wisconsin....
Denver is in the GLI this year. Western was in it last year.
BU is playing one game at Yost, so I assume they'll make the trip to East Lansing. UMass-Lowell said that they will host both MSU and Michigan in 2014-15. That leads me to believe BU and UML are just one game a piece. Just saw the MSU hockey Twitter confirmed it.
2 - Michigan Tech
1 - Boston University
1 - UMass-Lowell
2 - Western Michigan
2 - Great Lakes Invitational
2 - Van Andel Tournament
That leaves four dates still open.
GLI still going to be part of the winter classic?
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