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Because its his house, you have to look at it from his perspective. If you repeatedly hear people trying to break in, then someone breaks in, it's a fair assumption to make that it's the same person or group.
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Someone breaks into my house or so much as turns my door knob I am blowing their motherfucking head off. I have 2 kids in this house. My pump action 12 gauge blows a hole 2 feet wide in a door. It'll be like I'm in the Air Force. Aim High. I don't give a fuck about jail.
He was alright shooting the guy twice, once to knock him down and the other to take care of the threat. He didnt know that the kid had a gun.
He's f'ed on the girl because he admitted to going overboard and shooting her 6 times and then holding the gun under her chin.
The best defense would be self defense on the first charge and then going insane on the second one(the girl)
That's not how an insanity defense works. He has no insanity claim.
Cool story bro.
Simmer down Francis
I'm sick of old ladies paying with a check at the grocery store, but that doesn't give me the right to execute them right there.
sad for all involved.
That said: breaking into somebody's house is a fantastic way to find out what it's like to get shot. Fantastic. I would be very interested to know if there was evidence they did NOT break in. Still stupid by the kids but it's an important difference, as far as the law is concerned.
The coup d'gras is grisly and means he needs to go to prison regardless, imo.
Because I understand the law? It's self defense, which is intrinsically linked to the defendant's perspective. Particularly when it's in the defendant's own home.
Fuck, let's hope there's no girl scouts in the same neighborhood as this guy's worthless shack.
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He wasn't OK killing the guy. He shot him in the face because he wanted him dead. His own words.
At no point does he say he was threatened by either kid after wounding them.
He hunted and executed these kids.
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I believe that it's only self defense if you feel that your life is in danger and/or you are at risk of serious harm or rape.
Shooting them execution style when they are wounded and defenseless is not self defense.
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It would if there was a law saying you could.
There happens to be a law which states that shooting and intruder in your home is self defense.
Your analogy would then be akin to saying, "I'm 18 and an involved citizen in this country, but that doesn't give me the right to vote every election."
This post was edited by Jandy 17 months ago
her laughing is not an important fact.
The important facts to know are: what was the perceptible thread of force and what are the rights of homeowners to defend themselves from home intrusion in the state of Minnesota. It's easier to know what their rights are than the facts...but weighing the facts is why we have the criminal justice system.
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He does have one; he waited to call the police because he didn't want to bother anyone. That's insanity.
Whenever the victim is intruding the defendant's home it is a self-defense case, BY DEFINITION.
I've been broken into four times in my life, all in good neighborhoods in Chicago and in Spain. It ruins your peace of mind. Almost impossible to sleep soundly again (unless you are drunk.) I have no sympathy for people who break into peoples' houses. You know it's wrong - there is no "they don't know any better" excuse. You play with fire....
You believe correctly.
You can't just use deadly force because someone broke into your house. You have to have REASONABLE belief that death/severe bodily harm is imminent if you don't do something.
If the kids came in waving a gun around or holding a weapon or were looking to hurt this guy and not just rob him, the homeowner has a case. Hiding in the basement and picking them off the stairs before he even saw their shirts is murder. Finishing them off with a headshot is an execution.
he didnt know they werent a threat. The guy is not the problem, he's f'ed because he dragged the girl then shot her. Dragging her meant he knew she was no longer a threat.
The legal definition of insanity is not the same as the actual definition. You watch far too much law and order. Waiting a day to call the police and then telling his neighbor that he needed a lawyer proves that he was not insane. The legal definition of insanity has to do with the inability to understand if what he did was right or wrong. He clearly knows that because of two facts already laid out. 1) he asked for a lawyer from his neighbor before he called the police and 2) he said "I shot her too many times", by saying too many he clearly states that he is not insane and indeed understood exactly what he was doing.
This post was edited by jimmywalker 17 months ago
Hellz yeah. +1
Her laughing isn't even a fact. It's this guy's story.
The only other person who can say she laughed is her, and she is dead. The cousin can't say she laughed, he was already dead.
Not really. You're using self defense as a justification for using deadly force. To use deadly force you also have to show reasonable fear of imminent severe harm or death if you don't intervene.
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