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Why not make a rule change for Bowl games. Basically, waive the redshirt rule for Bowl games. Let everyone play, and participation would not count against eligibility to maintain redshirt status. To me, this would add some excitement to the bowls by giving fans a chance to see up and coming players, in addition to giving the youngsters some experience. If we are going to have all these bowls with mediocre teams, what not find ways to add value. Wouldn't it be fun to see that young Freshman running back from Georgia get some reps, or that Freshman safety we've been hearing about?
What is the downside to this? Has it been proposed before?
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coaches aren't going to just throw kids out there for the hell of it. Most coaches, if a guy is good enough, he will play. For many coaches, winning or losing bowl games is critical for job security, and it has an impact on recruiting, building a program, etc. They aren't going to just decide to throw out any random kid so the "fans can see up and coming players."
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There are kids that are redshirting that wouldn't be out there just for the hell if it. Wouldn't it be great to get Cox some snaps in a bowl game? Or maybe Kings/Arnett if they hadn't blown their redshirts this year? There are kids that redshirt that can contribute and I think that it would be interesting to allow redshirts to play in the bowl game.
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Kings and Arnett arent getting time now and they CAN play.
Why would they somehow get time in a bowl game if they hadnt played at all yet during the season.
Why would that be great? If it was great they actually would be playing right now.
I like it.
I am certain there are kids that redshirt who are good enough to play. Sometimes they don't play because of depth, not because they aren't ready. I say let them play. It would be a nice reward for the players, too. Coaches will use their judgement if they are ready or not. I'm pretty sure Cox could play now. Even more fun would be to allow teams to expand their rosters in basketball for the tourney, and let those redshirts play too. That would reward programs like State that value the program type of player who build their roster over the long haul.
Just wanted to throw that out, but I think it would add excitement, which I think the Bowls sorely need.
Fine, bad example. But Cox, Riley Bullough, and Ezra Robinson are guys that could likely help out in a bowl game, and would certainly benefit from playing in a game during their redshirt year without losing eligibility. There is absolutely no downside. Some players are ready to contribute, but have been redshirted for the benefit of the program.
I like it; Bowl games count towards the "next year" for red-shirts, so playing on Jan 1, 2013 doesn't ruin your 2012 RS year.
Makes sense for guys who have been "almost there" on the scout team, and with the extra bowl practices could contribute.
The downside is that it could mess with your playing rotation and affect your chances at winning. Still, it'd be nice to see Tompkins out there for some snaps.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
Coaches get paid to win, and nobody is going to risk losing a bowl game by just throwing some kids out there who haven't played all year. Practice time for the bowl games is limited as it is. You aren't going to put a kid who has been on the scout team all year suddenly up with the first team and have a starter watch practice instead. It sounds like a good idea, but few if any redshirts would play and even then probably only on special teams.
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There are opportunities that present themselves to work guys in, especially in blow outs, and frankly, I think you could find examples of guys that did so well in practice as the season progressed that they could very well help a team win, even if just as a kick returner. I'd extend the rule to include Medical Redshirts. Fonati could most definitely help State in a bowl game.
I don't think it's in the interest of college coaches to promote "the future", as in putting in players who might not be ready or jumbling up your chemistry on the field. It's to win right now. I don't think it's a good idea to get to an important game, like a BCS game or the National Title game, and then put players in who haven't played a down yet. As someone else posted, if they were good enough to be seeing the field and be a part of the starting 22, they already would have been.
So ruling that out it would only serve as a gimmick. As a gimmick, I don't think it does anything to help the team. I think it would make bowl games completely irrelevant if coaches for some reason wanted to do that. It'd be like preseason NFL football.
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The Bowl games are already irrelevant, at least most of them. Attendance is a joke for most of them, and TV ratings are down too. I say, give the coaches the option. If they think a guy can help them win, then let the guy play. If they want to reward a guy for busting his tail on the scout team all year with a few reps, then let them play. The fans would love it. I don't think it would necessarily be a gimimick at all.
I disagree that if a guy could help he would have played. There are many reasons guys redshirt. Sometimes guys get better and better through the season and by the last game, they are good enough but no way will a coach burn a shirt on one game. I say give them a shot, it would make the bowls more interesting. I for one would love to see Nick Tompkins, even if it was returning a kickoff.
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