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I am a bit perplexed by the lack of talk about Nix's chances at making the league. I mean, he is very very reliable with the ball at this point, gets it done out at the elbow handling and passing and even defending..and he's as tough as they come down on the block with the ball.
Is it that inconceiveable that he'd get a shot with someone in the league? It seems a big man with good soft hands and who can really hold his space is something valued even for a few minutes in NBA games, no? He draws fouls and makes the FTs.
I can't think of that many bigs I'd rather have on my team than Derrick Nix. I just wonder sometimes if we're not spoiled in also getting to watch Payne and it takes away from our perception of Nix's skills. The NBA absolutely lives on the isolation plays that we "go to" when we absolutely, positively have to have a bucket. And it's the Nixer who is that Man on this team.
Most College teams don't have anything like him. (let alone a Payne to go with him) Is he THAT lacking in height and an outside shot? Defensive liability? Are these what are keeping him out of the NBA discussion?
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He'd never be able to employ that nice touch in the NBA. He'd be smothered by defenders who are bigger, faster, and longer than almost everybody he faces in college. I love Nix, but he has zero shot at making an NBA roster.
I've often wondered this as well. I think he's quietly put together one of the best seasons of anyone on this team. I'd love to see him get a shot in the league, very skilled guy at 280 lbs
The days of Pig Miller like players in the NBA is over...heck, the days of Kevin Willis are basically over.
There's no room for guys who play consistently with their back to the baskets. They've pretty much taken any physicality out of the game and turned it into some sort one on one ballet on hard wood.
My feeling is lack of speed in transition and predictable down low game. Always goes to the right.
That being said he's my favorite on the teAm and I hope he makes it to the big league.
He will have a solid career overseas.
I love Nixer on the college level, but NBA teams aren't going gangbusters for a 6-9 center with ZERO hops. He's an good rebounder, not a great or excellent one. No range outside of 5 feet and for the most part can only go with the left hand.
Don't mean to be down on the guy, he's become an incredible college player and a true spartan. But he's got no place in the NBA
- He's 6'9". That's undersized for a 5.
- He doesn't have the athleticism to be a 4.
- He has zero shot.
- He has no moves to his right.
- In the NBA, the game is much more up and down. The halfs are longer, the shot clock is shorter. You have to run more and efficiently manage possessions. That is not well suited to Nix's game.
IMO he should work on a Kareem style hook shot and develop a nice range with it.
how about football?
Nix works hard, especially so with how much weight he was able to lose. If he can keep his weight down and keep working hard overseas, he may get a chance to be on an NBA roster some day as a role player for a season or two.
I wonder what kind of player he would have been at 255.
If he takes the time to learn how to play either side of the line, he could be an intriguing Football prospect.
But he'll make a good living oversees playing basketball, and probably could use the money, so I doubt he'd take another year in college to see if he could learn.
LENGTH is why I don't see Derrick as much of an NBA prospect. 6-11 & + long, tall, & athletic bigs can play behind him & control him rather easily.
This post was edited by Big Doug 13 months ago
This. Nix's strength's, back to the basket post moves are not highly valued in the current NBA.
Plus, although NBA' offenses include a lot of standing around on isolation plays, when the movement is required it needs to be explosively quick.
This. If he is to have a chance at the next level, he will have to lose 20-30 pounds and gain a lot of speed. He's a college 5 with an NBA 4 body but the skills of a 5.
That's not exactly true. A back to the basket game is still valued. You're telling me that an NBA team wouldn't love to have a guy like Shaq in his prime around?
The problem is that you can't ONLY have a back to the basket game and be undersized for your position. That's why there isn't more love from scouts for Nix.
If he was 7'0", he'd probably be a lottery pick
This post was edited by WavSpartan 13 months ago
You can't be a 6-9 (and that might be generous) PF/C in the NBA and play below the rim. Nix is glued to the floor. FANTASTIC college player, and there are worse things in this world than playing basketball for a lot of money in Spain, or France, or Italy ...
This post was edited by Omar Comin19758 13 months ago
Are you kidding me? Nix has no shot more than a few feet from the basket, isn't big (NBA wise) for his position, and isn't particularly athletic. He's only an inch taller than LeBron James FFS. People asking this question need to actually watch a NBA game for once.
This post was edited by Logik 13 months ago
stole my post FC....everything you said is true: that's the bad news for Dnix...the good news is he should be able to play in Europe: he's a wide body that eats space and can really bang and post up. That won't be ignored over there. Wouldn't be a bad idea to latch on with a team that has someone he knows from MSU or another Big Ten team....it's been documented that Derrick needs a strong support system around him to succeed. Nothing wrong with that, just the way it is.
He has a shot. He has weight issues but he has improved more then any player I have ever seen. He has now developed his right hand. Why is he so much worse than Zac Randolph, a 20/10 NBA player over his career?
jebus chitown, my apologies man: I have GOT to start reading posts all the way down the thread....I posted virtually the same damn thing you did!!!!!!
uhhhhhhhhhhhh......I assume that last question isn't serious? Do yourself a favor and do NOT compare those two. Only real similarity they share was being left handed centers that played for MSU...NO comparison in talent
You're not serious right?
Because Randolph could do things as a freshman that Nix still can't do. Nix isn't a poor man's Zach Randolph, he is a Biafran baby's Zach Randolph.
Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that if another Wilt Chamberlain came around they would say "no thanks go to Europe,"
But how many almost strictly back to the basket players are there in the league now. Dwight Howard and ??? who else. There may be more but I don't watch enough to tell.
This post was edited by WBill19542 13 months ago
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