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I know this thread sucks but figured there are lots of peeps here with knowledge on the subject. Our 6 year old electrolux icon just died. The Kitchen Aid is made in Ohio supposedly so that is what I will buy unless I can be persuaded that German engineering is really better. The models that I am looking at are 40db vs. 39db respectively. TIA.
Bosch made in New Bern, NC. New models from Bosch coming out in May, if you can wait. I worked for Bosch for 3 1/2 years if you have any questions?
I have a Bosch dishwasher. It clean dishes well.
When in May? Early? Late? Any chance I can read up on the new products right now to see if they are worth waiting for? I'm tired of having dishpan hands.
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All else being equal, my vote would be to support the Michigan company
I have a Bosch dishwasher and it works well. It's very quiet, too.
I have a KitchenAid gas range and will never buy a KitchenAid anything again.I've had multiple service calls on it, and I don't think they support the product like they should. The coating on the grill keeps bubbling and burning off with normal use. They won't replace it unless you pay nearly $150. I don't know anything about their dishwashers other than the fact that I'll never buy one.
Bosch for sure.... top rated by CR.
The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.
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We were told by our appliance repairman to stay away from Bosch for the primary reason that (a) they all break roughly the same, and (b) Bosch equipment is much more expensive to repair. It's a dishwasher, there is not much benefit to buy anything more than an entry level unit, except for looks. I'd get an el cheapo, or entry level stainless made in the U.S.
I left company couple of weeks ago. Last I heard plan was for early May. Don't have much more info besides that racks are going to be larger than the old "European" sized racks.
I have seen plenty of nicely sized European racks.
Bought a Bosch a few year ago. Had many repairs. My wife and I purchased it based on reputation and the Consumer Reports ratings. It holds fewer dishes than the domestics. When we learned that the local repair companies charge almost $100 more for European models out of warranty, we gave up and replaced it with a Kitchen Aide. It has been trouble free, holds more dishes, is just as quiet as the Bosh and made in the mid-West.
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This is terrible advice. I had an el cheapo dishwasher and it sounded like a jet engine taking off. My new Bosch, which didn't cost that much more, is whisper quiet. it does make a huge difference to pay a little more in this case. Can't speak for kitchen aide but I've had my Bosch for three years with no problems.
Kitchenaid. The good people in Findlay, OH will thank you.
Just went through this very same decision a couple months ago. The Bosch was smaller and the top rack glides didn't feel quite as sturdy. So we went Kitchenaid.
Get a Whirlpool.
Same publication that named Old Milwaukee the best tasting beer in America.
QFT. Any one that ever tells you to get a cheap dishwasher has never owned a good one.
All whirlpool is garbage. I don't like kitchen aide as it is made by whirlpool. Our bosch has been trouble free and quiet. We don't even rinse our dishes and they come out perfect. Cheap models don't wash as well. A stainless steel model is worth it.
OK, my opinions are a bit dated, but bear with me. When we built a new home 12 years ago, we really researched this as our family room/kitchen layout really depended on a very quiet dishwasher. After a lot of research, and visiting some appliance stores that actually had various brands/models installed so you could hear them operate, the quietest was a Scandanavian brand called Asko. It was quiter than Bosch and a bunch quieter than other brands (and I have an emotional bias to Whirlpool as I worked for them on washing machine assembly lines to get thru college). And while it seemed smaller than our historic American brand dishwashers, we were shown data that indicated that was not so. So we bought the Asko
Bottom line, it is VERY quiet. And the capacity is just fine with a family of 5. Really cleans the dishes and does not require much rinsing at all. And on top of all of that, we have had it for 12 years and used every day. ZERO, and I mean ZERO issues. No corrosion, no mechanical issues, no repairs required, no nuicances whatsoever.
I will definitely look at this brand again, but not so sure it is marketed much in the US anymore. At the time, it sold as well as Bosch as the Euro brands were just getting their headway in the US market
I would take advice from the UM guy. UM people have excellent knowledge of machines that help them avoid doing any kind of labor.
bosch or siemens
Actually that is the same situation we faced the end of last year. Our old GE Profile dishwasher bit the dust -- during a holiday party with a bunch of people over and a ton of dirty dishes, plates, serving pieces, etc. Researched dishwashers and came down to the same two brands. Was leaning toward Bosch and saw them at Best Buy. Didn't want to buy them there though because I don't care for their return policy, customer service, etc. So went to Sears which had a pretty decent selection and went back and forth between a KitchenAid and Bosch model. It finally came down to a $150 rebate promotion Sears was running on selected Bosch units. So in essence the installation was free and I couldn't see spending an additional $150 on a model I only liked as well (not necessarily more than the Bosch).
Okay that was my story on how I selected Bosch and here is my perception after having it for 2.5 months: the Bosch is a great unit, extremely quiet and good looking in our kitchen (we got a model with the controls on the top of the door so the front design is very clean and understated). It is true it seems to hold a bit less capacity than our old model but since we are empty-nesters for the most part this doesn't really create a problem (if you have a large family perhaps the larger capacity may be a selling point). I suspect that is because the Bosch frame is thicker and more heavily sound insulated -- it is a lot quieter than our old GE which you could hear upstairs. Our model also doesn't have a drying mode so the glasses and mugs usually have some water on them which needs to be wiped off -- not a problem for me, but an observance. However, glasses and dishes come out sparkling clean (now I sound like a commercial) which wasn't the case with the old GE.
Bottom line: I understand they're both very good units. Find a price point you want to spend and see which manufacturer gives you more for your money. And if you can find it on sale all the better. Good luck!
This post was edited by SpartanEdge 13 months ago
call me crazy, but i would pay $500 more to not wipe down the glasses and mugs every day for the next ten years.
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