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Here is the writeup on him on NBADraft.net
Currently they didn't have him listed as going pro and or being drafted by any team. That may change, who knows.
EDIT: Did not see the 2009 date at the bottom.
This post was edited by Stan Sitwell 18 months ago
A man's gotta eat!
Selfishly I hope he comes back. We are playing well but I always thought 2014 was a title contending roster. If Payne can keep improving and Dawson gets a healthy summer of work outs in........
There are plenty of winners in this thread. Anything happened, lol.
Dawson isn't leaving. If Payne stays, great. If he leaves, he's likely going to be a lottery pick. I can't think of any NBA 4's he can't decently guard. The Deshaun Thomas's of the world are Draymond's problem. I guess Dirk and LeBron (and they're superstar mismatches for everyone and lack true positions).
As for offense, he has the athleticism, a good form jumper, and range. Decent ball-handler (above average for an NBA big). He's a fantastic defensive rebounder. (26.1 DR% vs. Draymond's 28.3 DR% last year).
The definite hole in his game is in the back to the basket game. It's strange to say that, but he's not a next level post threat yet.
I hope he comes back and develops a solid arsenal of post moves. He's much improved in that area since his freshman year, but there are still times where he only relies on his athleticism to get baskets down low. Won't be able to do that in the NBA.
Plus if he leaves, next year could be unpleasant.
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Did this thread turn sarcastic or something? "If he leaves, he's likely going to be a lottery pick?"
Holy cow, you guys are delusional. He's getting better, but no way he gets drafted anywhere at all as of today. Show me a mock draft board where he's listed.
20 percent tops. He can be one of the top big men in the country next year. Better publicity.
What is that, a Titleist? A hole in one...
I think it's safe to say, the better this year goes, the worse next year could be. Our starting five could realistically be:
Close to 6'11, can hit the 3, can hit the mid-range jumper, crazy athleticism, excellent shot blocker, solid rebounder on both ends, played in winning program with world-class coach who's put many players in NBA including all-stars, can put the ball on the floor and drive from the 3-point line, has a baseline fade-away...
Don't put anybody's name on that scouting report, and tell me what you think their prospects would be for getting drafted.
People are saying he needs to be able to score consistently near the basket. Payne will not play center, he will be a 4 in the league. If he continues games like he had against Penn State and IU and we have a deep tourney run , he will move into those first round picks. If Summers did it during his tourney run, Payne has way more upside and can do it.
And is a Junior who has a lung problem. Those will be his two biggest downfalls when it comes to the NBA.
Try 6'9, has hit ~5 3-point shots in his whole career, new with the mid-range uncontested jumper this year, can jump but not fast, so-so shot blocker statistically, good rebounder, winning program that has a reputation for overachieving with its players, has driven from the 3-point line twice, ever...
We're talking about Payne, right?
He needs another year with Izzo to work on defense..............
With only Kaminski off the bench. I don't see all three guys ( Dawson, Payne and Harris ) going but if they do...........
This. If he plays the rest of the season like he has the past couple weeks (minus @Wisky), I think he can get picked in the late first round. He needs to show that he can play a strong 30+ min night in and night out.
I do see early first round potential if he makes a "realistic" jump in skill from junior to senior yr. If his 8-10 ft turnaround jumper is consistent and he improves his shot blocking, I can see him as a Rasheed Wallace-esque type player in the league.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by 2TimeSpartan 18 months ago
At the very least I think Payne will take an extended look. We are talking about a 5-star, top 30 recruit who had to be planning on going pro early. The lung trouble hampered his development, but growth this year (particularly with his range) is impressive and certainly has his stock rising.
If Payne comes back for a senior year, he'll be on everyone's radar for 2013-14 and can cement himself as a 2014 lottery pick.
Payne needs to show he can cover a 4, one like Thomas on OSU. When he does that, and demonstrates he can hit the 3 with consistency, suddenly he becomes draftable.
Unlike the football team, does he know how to use a rubber?
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Payne will be a lottery pick this summer if he keeps up his performance. I think he's 99.9% out the door.
Good for him!! He deserves to be rewarded for his incredible talent!
Why would he need to prove he can guard someone like Thomas? Thomas would play the 3 in the NBA and 4's in the NBA aren't going to be running all around screens like he does.
6'10" guys in the NBA who can shoot, don't need as many screens. I use Thomas as an example because he lit him up for 30 and he is not considered quick. That's all.
Try on tall end of 6'10, has proven he can drive, had a reputation and % to back it up coming out of HS as a kid that could shoot the three, is finally being allowed to do so in rigid system. Statistically, given minutes played, he is a solid shot blocker.
Over-achieving with players...like:
J-Rich- long, solid NBA career.
Charlie Bell- long, solid NBA career.
Hutson- brief NBA career, long, solid International career.
MoPete- long, solid NBA career.
Zebo- long, solid NBA career.
Mateen- brief NBA career.
Davis- short NBA career.
David Thomas- long, solid International career
Ballinger- long, solid International career.
Anderson- long, solid International career, back in the NBA again.
Ager- long, solid International career.
Green- playing the important minutes as rookie.
Morgan- currently has solid International career in Israel going.
And this is off the top of my head...
You know Payne didn't give up all 30 right?
I've never seen an NBA 4 who's 6'7 215. For reference, Tayshaun Prince weights 215 pounds. 3/4 tweeners are in the 6'8 230 range.
Deshaun Thomas is a wing in the NBA.
I think ultimately Payne comes back so he can play 30 minutes a game consistently, and show that there are no issues with his endurance.
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This post was edited by izzone89 18 months ago
Remind yourself. Nobody built like you, you design yourself.
What a fvcking racist and bigoted comment,
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