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Gary Barnett on radio interview that Big XII looking to add Louisville and Florida St.
He's correct folks! The end game is still about ND. Either getting them to join or leaving them outside the new setup entirely.
Wouldn't be surprised if the B1G went after Ga Tech for the market and then gave ND one last chance. Once the ACC is caved in for football, how is ND going to get into the 'big game' without being in one of the "Big Four" conferences?
This post was edited by Bender 20 months ago
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Delany is hoping Neilsen Ratings would be open to counting sunflower heads.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
KU would balance the conference with Midwest, while getting recruiting in Kansas and reach into Oklahoma and Texas. Would bring Kansas City market into the fold better than Mizzou, which may have been their research on holding off on Mizzou. UNC brings major markets in a growing state and rich recruiting territory, also. Both bring major national followings wi them, and both have greatly renovated their football facilities. Delaney could be banking again on the promise of the programs and massive basketball exposure.
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Exactly. And if reports are true, FSU is NOT happy in the ACC and is looking around. IF they go and or the B1G takes another ACC school, the ND is screwed. They won't be getting into the natty championship playoffs anytime soon unless they are always rated #1 (fat chance). The 'Big Four' conferences are going to control the championships.
Basketball doesn't enter into these decisions at all. It's not even a blip!
It's all about football and the eyes on the TV's. Market, market, market. Mizzou was turned down before and the Kansas market is too small. Think Atlanta!
Also, Delany wasn't banking on anything. He knew the number of TV's in the Va - Washington area and the NY - NJ area (biggest market in the country). 'Promise of programs' had NOTHING to do with it.
I'll wait for Orangebloods and Mr. OneNut to confirm.
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You lost me.
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I'm not advocating...trying to figure out reasons why KU makes sense. It balance out the eastern expansion by adding one more truly Midwest school. As at a recruiting, it adds a strong recruiting state, per capita, of kansas..and also adds recruiting exposure and reach into hotbeds, by proximity of alumni and geographically, I to Oklahoma and Texas.
I'm on a phone here, give me a break.
This post was edited by Black Dutch 20 months ago
You can advocate anything you'd like. I'm questioning your premises that kansas has talent or is anywhere near Texas.
Culturally, it is very intertwined with Okalahoma and Texas. There are a lot of Texas transplants throughout Kansas and Kansas Ciy. Being able to tell parents that they can watch their kids play at least once every two years by going a few hours up I35 is attractive.
This is the correct answer. The ND decision making folks need "cover" to get into a real conference for football but they have to deal with a delusional fan base who would shoot whomever made the move on their own without ND be "forced". Make no mistake about it, ND is a big fish to land and with TV contracts coming up in 2017, the BIG would be demanding lots of $$$ and will get it.
nah...they are worse than maryland and rutgers, even though maryland and rutgers aren't that appealing either.
Let's have one 100 team super conference world state that ole Jim can be dictator of. Complete round robin conference schedule of course, 64 team playoff at the end with 36 play in spots!
Kansas is really close to the Texas panhandle...check out the photo if you don't believe me.
Did adding Nebraska get us in Texas? Because Lincoln and Lawrence aren't that far apart, and NU has a huge presence in KC.
I'd also somewhat dispute your cultural characterization. I've never been to KC, but I know the Big Eight-SWC merger was an arranged marriage.
And if the state of KS has talent and gets you into TX recruiting, why does KU football blow?
Nothing personal, I just don't agree.
Having to pick up Rutgers, Maryland and either Kansas or UNC just to get ND makes the whole end game not worth it. ND would be a great addition to the B1G, but not if you just gobble up everything and water the whole thing down.
Lawrence is as close to Minneapolis as it is to any talent in TX. Have you ever driven through the panhandle? We should send the Mars Rover there.
Cmon UNC!.... I live 8 miles away.. I would love to hit up some Spartan games if this could happen!
Out of curiosity, I looked up the kansas football roster. They indeed have a bunch of kids from TX, (and ironically, a kid from Piscataway, NJ).
But KU can currently tell recruits' parents that they'll get to see their kids four times a year: versus texas, TCU, TxTech, and Baylor. Big Ten recruiters couldn't use that pitch.
Additionally, as bad as KU football is, they must be getting TX left-overs.
I just don't see it translating into any Texas recruiting for MSU, which is all I care about.
Texas has the third highest out of state students at KU.
Do I think it would be a Texas recruiting boom for the B1G? no way. Big Ten will always get leftovers. Could it help improve? I think it could. But it would be the same thing with UNC and GT.
Ps. does anyone know much about Google Fiber and BTN contracts?
Kansas doesn't really add anything that Nebraska didn't already add. And as others noted, Mizzou was throwing themselves at the B1G and got turned down.
Mizzou doesn't have any national reach and can't carry St. Louis or Kansas City...that's why they weren't added.
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