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ND is too stubborn to join the B1G.
Look at the deal they made with the ACC for football to avoid playing a full ACC football schedule.
For that reason alone they will never join the B1G.
My seats at SS. My driveway in winter.
I think the B1G after adding 2 ACC schools and the SEC after adding 2 ACC schools should then get together with the PAC-12 and shut ND out of the National Championship then. No reason to give them a seat at the table anymore if every major conference has attempted to add them and they've refused.
Lets not pretend this has anything to do with education...
Your average UofM fan and I have something in common, neither of us went to UofM. Though we do share One major difference, I got Accepted.
Not in the pure$t $en$e but there are big dollar$ in re$earch too. AAU is important for that rea$on
It's a town full of losers. I'm pulling out of here to win!
Only an idiot believes that...don't be an idiot...be someone with half a brain and recognize the role of the school.
You're sounding like an SEC fan.
ND doesn't want to be regionalized, and currently, joining a conference does exactly that. The B1G, however, sees itself as on it's way to going national as well, and as CFB moves towards the 4 Superconference model, ND is going to have to join a conference in order to be included. So how does the B1G make itself the most attractive option?
Step 1: Make yourself the NYC conference leader. This was almost achieved by adding Rutgers, along with UM and PSU, with ND being the missing piece to secure it.
2. Make the ACC appear to be the 5th football conference. This was set in motion by the Kansas rumor. Talking about Kansas moving will get the B12 working to add more to secure their standing. And don't forget who they're main target is: FSU. FSU leaving would make the ACC completely vulnerable, and make it clear that it doesn't have a bright football future.
3. Make yourself a nearly complete national product. The main markets that the B1G isn't a part of still are Miami, Houston/Dallas, and LA. While Texas has been talked about, the B1G needing the B12 to be the 4th Superconference means Texas is off limits. Meanwhile, Miami and LA are in states where the B1G can't really expand. So how are those markets secured? With Texas off the table, there aren't really any other national football programs in play (other than ND, of course). So how are those markets reached? The B1G's saving grace is actually going to be bball; the inner city passion. UNC is the missing piece. It's a national bball brand with a better-than-terrible football program. With UNC, the B1G is a viable LA market option, likely achieving Miami and Houston/Dallas as well. The UNC addition/rumors also cements the ACC's collapse, as the SEC swipes UVa and VT.
While many things still would have to go right, it seems pretty clear to me that Delaney is making his best ND push yet.
laconophilia is everywhere...
Haven't you been listening to boeheim? Rio!
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nd used the "we're a national brand" excuse not to join the BT for two decades, when they knew they didn't have the team to compete in a Big Ten schedule. Now that they do, they've so convinced themselves of their own bullshit that they're a lost cause. They remind me of the republican party. Very clearly, the BT is going to be semi-national. So what are they missing out on? Playing Stanford and USC?
Remember when they insisted it'd be a pay cut to join the Big Ten?
If Clemson and FSU are poached by another conference (Big 12?) ND might panic. Those 5 games against ACC schools every season will be virtually guaranteed to be absolute crap every year. That will seriously hurt their schedule and be a huge negative going into the playoff/selection committee world. Imagine a ND schedule that includes Navy, Purdue, Duke, NC State, Virginia, Wake Forest and Boston College. That's a lot of crap for one schedule. Potentially toss in UConn and other C-USA and/or Big East crap and you get the same result.
In another scenario, if the B1G poaches other ACC schools such as Virginia and UNC, it harms ND from an Olympic sport standpoint and further destabilizes the ACC.
In short, ND should be very nervous about their new agreement with the ACC and with what is going on with realignment right now. Delany just broke down the door again and anything is possible.
The RCMB...is one of the most awful, alarming, inappropriate, disgusting, and offensive msg boards in the history of the internet.
We have some pretty attractive options for nd right now. We could pair them with BC, Pitt, GaTech, or even possibly Texas. Three traditional rivals, plus one market they want to get into. We've already established an east coast beachhead for them.
I definitely think it's their smart play, I just don't think they're smart enough to make it.
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