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No kidding. Was going to post the same thing! And then you see some of the ridiculous "late" hit calls against MSU this season and it's just makes me angry all over again.
The one-point safety makes it possible to score only one point in a game, although it would have to be a much more unusual play than the one we just saw. KSU would have to return it towards the other end zone, fumble it, and Oregon would have to then get tackled in that end zone.
Do you think Chip Kelly would make a good coach in the NFL?
Well, you have to have a touchdown before the 1 point safety. And if the defense scores off the failed conversion, they get 2 points. So 1 point doesn't seem possible.
Yeah, that's what I was referring to a couple posts above yours. Can't happen in high school or the NFL, though.
Regular 1 point safeties like the one we just saw can happen in the NFL. I remember Ed Hochuli calling one several years ago.
See my post above. Essentially, you would need to have two change of possessions and then a safety on a PAT.
Had Oregon ran 100 yards the other way and got tackled in the endzone, KSU would have gotten 1 point. It will never happen, but it is possible.
So Oregon would have to recover the fumble outside of their own end zone, then carry the ball into their own end zone and then get tackled? That would be the craziest play ever. It could happen if John L. Smith were the coach.
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I've been thinking about that this whole game. Might be hard to get a full team of players that can run this system. Players have to be extremely conditioned and it seems that there are a lot of "lazy" players in the nfl.
KState was number one in the country. Think about that. My God they are awful. The Big XII is really weak.
Here's another blog post about that possibility: http://www.thusspiked.com/2011/11/wonderful-world-of-one-point-safeties.html
Are you sure you need two change of possessions? What if a team goes for 2, and just keeps going backwards to the other endzone before finally getting tackled?
I stand corrected. I learned something new today. And with almost an hour to spare.
I agree..I still feel like this system is a gimick in my opinion. I think it is easier to run in College because if you can get a bunch of speed athletes the disparity is huge in the college game. In the NFL everyone is fast, athletic, big. Also in the league you have a lot of veterans that don't have the speed like some of these college players anymore. I don't know..
They're not awful
They're just not a top 5 team
Getting beat by one of the top 4 teams in the country doesn't make you awful
They haven't played well against teams that can run a high scoring offense this year...Baylor crushed them.
Yeah, that's possible too. I guess there is about the same chance of that happening as the turnover + long run + turnover + safety situation. It might be more possible, even, because any team could do it any time without much resistance from the other team.
Then that would be a 2 point safety, I would think. Seems it would have to result from a failed kick.
No, it's just called a "conversion safety." I don't think it has anything to do with whether you were kicking or going for 2.
No, it would be a 1-point safety.
Does anyone else think that the Eagles have the personnel to run Kelly's system?
I guess they would need a healthy Vick
It reminds me of a few years ago when Rich Rod was "the guy" for every opening and I thought "well, that will be interesting to see that offense with the best recruits in the country." (If you remember, he almost went to Alabama and, instead, went with Michigan, with Saban ending up at 'Bama. Think 'Bama fans are happy with that decision?) Rich Rod's offense, of course, didn't work at Michigan. I'm leaning towards something similar happening with Kelly in the NFL.
They would be the best bet but even Vick is getting old. Can he run an offense that speed for an entire game?
They would probably be the only team right now in the league that would be able to offer him that option with an opening right now. Eagles have some very young fast players. McCoy is a fast running back that fits really well in a speed/spread system. They have Deshawn Jackson and Macklin who are extremely fast recievers. Vick would need to be healthy.
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