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Shoot me now. Anyone have any good suggestions on a book, website, ect..... To help get me through this shit??? Is it even humanly possible to remember all this shit??? Oy veh
Isn't that bad, honestly. If you want, get like a used MCAT orgo review book, they're usually condensed and more of an overview thats easier to understand. Then you can look at your textbook for more details.
Do practice problems, it's hard to learn just reading. Draw out structures, map out electron movement and functional group movements, and then remember which reagents are used for which reactions.
Try to separate it by types, such as like the initial reactant e.g.:
Then split them more into like dehydrations, oxidations, reductions, etc.
Which orgo are you in?
Im a save-a-lot spartan....I go to EMU
Find your local meth dealer there in Yipsi. They'll teach you everything you need to know.
This. Once you simplify things into classes of reactions it really isn't that bad.
Yes, but Orgo I or Orgo II? They're pretty different imo.
Run. Run like hell. Org Chem makes rocket science (i.e., astrophysics) seem uncomplicated.
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That class turns a lot of pre-med students into Business majors.
Yeah but is it like a standard prerequisite class or some advanced grad class? I guess I don't know how it all works at EMU.
Anyways, orgo only seems difficult on the surface. Just put some time into it.
Agree. Orgo was easier for me than gen chem, Gen chem was definitely harder because of equilibrium/solubility/acid-base rxns
Orgo sucked, but wait until you try P Chem.
Exactly the same for me. Orgo was definitely easier than gen chem for me and FAARR easier than biochem.
Park your ass in the library for a couple hours every day and draw out the structures over and over. It's the only way to learn it. I bombed my first organic exam at State and was convinced I was gonna have to drop the class, which would have meant having to change majors. But then I sacked the eff up and spent the rest of the summer in the library studying. Still only 2.5'ed the class, but it's one of my proudest academic achievements. This, more than any other class I've ever taken, was simply about spending the hours with the material. Don't worry, you'll get there.
Biochem, on the other hand. Eff that shit.
Biochem is the worst class i've ever taken in my life, hands down.
I still have nightmares from General Chem, Organic Chem, and Biochem.
Orgo is a tough class because its so different than anything else you've done before. Practice tests helped me more than anything. My prof posted previous exams that we could use. It takes time and effort.
Biochem? Fuck that. Avoid at all costs. That was the most difficult course I've ever taken. And it isn't even close.
Agreed with all the comments about Biochem. Orgo wasn't bad at all.
Truer words haven't been said. Orgo made me change my major.
Ohhhh orgo, how I hate you so. That class was awful. Biochem was even worse. Those made me want to kill myself
I made it through the first semester of Orgo, and changed my major during the second...
I liked orgo and biochem (got A's and B's in them), but then again, I was a biochem major at MSU, and am now currently getting my PhD in biochemistry. Having said that, neither were cake walks. One of the reasons I did well in orgo was because I was told to fear it before I took the class and ended up purchasing the book "Organic Chemistry As a Second Language" by David R. Klein the summer before. It really "distills" the information down into something you can easily remember. If I recall it really only covers what you do in Orgo 1, so if you're already on to orgo 2, then maybe just a get a good study group. Doing problem sets, drawing the structures, and flash cards are the way to go with orgo. Good luck!
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Organic chem is the reason I'm a lawyer. I hated that damn class.
The only reason I passed biochem is because the second half of the course covered DNA structure and replication, which I had before. The first half, though, was Kreb's cycle and shit, which never sunk in. It also didn't help that the co-instructor, Mirta Sivak, had a thick-ass Eastern European accent. It took me half the semester to figure out that when she said "pro-tay-een" that she mean "protein".
I'll never forget, though, when Jack Preiss went to take a piss and left his microphone on.
Yeah I remember that. Did you take it in spring 2010? Or maybe spring 2009? I actually forgot about that class so when I said biochem sucked I meant BMB 401 with Dr. Foley. I actually saw a girl get caught cheating during an exam by Dr. Foley. Got really uncomfortable in the room for a while.
Anyways intro to biochem was still torture and I've tried blocking out the memories. BMB 401 is still in my nightmares.
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