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No, that shit happened back in '99 or '00. He must not have learned his lesson.
This post was edited by Radio Raheem 17 months ago
I just sat in the damn library for 7 hrs....Feel a little better about it.
After reading your responses I'm scared shitless.. lol. I may have to drive over to Ypsi and hit up that Meth man...Should be ok, just gonna have to actually take the time to study the shit....how dumb.
Gonna fill my fat face with asian zing wings from Bdubs now as my reward for actually studying....GO RASHAD!!!!
Well done, my brutha. There's no substitute for parking your ass in the library. Do that a few more times over the next week and that shit will start clicking, I promise.
Yep. Library. A lot of it. I won't go as far as saying O-Chem was easy but it clicked more for me than a lot of other classes including gen chem.
I just had to look up who I had. It was Stoltzfus who was the course coordinator but Feig was the one who left the mic on in the bathroom. Stoltzfus was a really good instructor. He is a former marine and was very drill sergeant-y with his lecture style. It was cool though because he would bring in Oreos or donuts and milk and pop and give it to whichever student could properly explain how the molecules would get digested in your body.
We definitely had the "pro-tee-in" lady. At least I'll never forget the e comes before the i in protein.
My oldest said toughest courses ever taken. Nothing but grunt work and used a "kit" to build stuff to help visualize.
I still have the "kit" . I took it way back and it awful then. Some things never change. People who breeze through Org just get it. Reminds me of the folks in computer science who can program easily.
Get all points possible from lab, use the estimated guess, if not its b answer for exams, did much better this way than most of my friends.
Do they still segregate the premed students from the Chemists/Chem Engineers? Back in 1988, there were two sets of organic chemistry, the organic that most of pre-med students took was called "baby organic." A few pre-med students took the regular (more difficult) organic with us, but they quickly dropped out and changed to baby organic so that they wouldn't risk getting below a B in the class, which would hurt their chances to get into med school.
That being said, organic chemistry was a bitch no matter what your major was, especially during the winter quarter (I'm dating myself a bit). I remember the average during the winter quarter for one of our tests was 33%, and there wasn't a curve, one person got a 70, the next highest score was a 57, I think I got a 43. I felt quite prepared for that test going in, but it was like I studied for an English test, and the test was written in French. Does anyone else here remember Dr. Wagner chewing us out and calling us all stupid when we he passed back the results of that test? After that midterm, half the class dropped, but we were given a reprieve that our final exam would be our grade for the quarter (no pressure). Even with the chance to redeem yourself on the final, alot of the people that were left still failed.
This post was edited by SouthTex 17 months ago
Orgo II was easier than Orgo I IMO.
My advice is to buy a dry erase board to practice your reactions on, and do all the practice problems you can get ahold of.
Org Chem made me change my major to something more business related.
I remember having orgo 2 after changing my major and deciding to go to law school. Imagine how pissed my pre med gf was when I 3.5'd it and she 2.0'd it. Guess who is a lawyer and who is not a doctor?
How about paying attention in class?
Organic chemistry. Going to class is good, even though our Chemistry dept is awful, but you ultimately need to spend time on your own understanding and learning the basic principles and memorizing a ton. Great class for weeding out the weak. It's not the end of the world if you don't do well. Caribbean med schools and chiropractic schools need students too.
This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by The Doctor 17 months ago
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Thanks for sharing. Don't know if I would have come up with that on my own. You are a lifesaver.
Class won't necessarily help everyone but it helps to see the reactions, etc. being drawn out. Orgo is a very visual subject and you NEED to be able to visualize the drawings (where electrons are moving, etc.) to be successful in the class. So sometimes it will help to go to class.
Also, KhanAcademy is a big help.
LOL at people bitching about a class where you are actually expected to LEARN THE SUBJECT!
My, what a novel concept! Oh, the poor stupid college student...
God, what a bunch of entitled whimps students have become.
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I think you have to learn the subject in every class.
Organic chem is tough for most people because it's unlike any class they've had to take before.
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