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Not servers, just not douchebags either. talk about entitled, you deserve to be the exception to tipping? you deserve to be treated like those who leave 20% after a meal if they get good service? You need to be reminded that you're not nearly as important as you think you are, clearly.
That is technically true, but not completely. I have never worked at Applebee's, but restaurants I have worked for allowed you to opt out of the auto gratuity on the computer. In fact, I would opt out a lot when I waited, especially if I could tell a table had a real good time (much like Pit Bull). It was a gamble I was willing to take because it wasn't uncommon in those situations to get 20 or 25 percent, but if the 18 percent was there, that was generally all I was getting.
Where I worked you had the option, based on how you felt about the table to add 18% or take your chances. some people get really insulted if you add 18% so it's a delicate balance.
Although I agree that tipping is out of hand, I should not be obligated to tip at Starbucks, Dairy Queen or any carry out, nor should they shun me for not doing so. The employees should be making at least minimum wage which is what they signed up for.
What is different here is that it was listed on their menu that all party's 8 or more are automatically charged an 18% gratuity. The customer tried to do everything to avoid this by splitting the bills (even though she paid for all of them). She got caught and demanded that everyone at that location get fired. Obviously a pure ghetto move.
I'm the jerk but you stereotype two groups of people.
HEY! I've seen the movie Waiting too, what are the chances?
Someone else being an asshole doesn't exempt you from being one as well. In fact, there are a lot of you assholes if you haven't noticed, it's really become a problem.
Am I wrong? to imply that someone is entitled because they expect a tip after making sure you had a pleasant dining experience is ridiculous. If you can't afford to eat out, Don't eat out.
I can tell you that I was just at a restaurant with a group of six and we got really crappy service and were pretty freaking annoyed when the 18 percent was on there.
But most of us assholes tip.
That's when you quietly pull a manager aside and ask him to comp something, you don't be a douche and cross out the 18% line. There are ways to handle yourself in public.
I once saw on a Jimmy John's poster somethign to the effect of "you can always get a good read on people based on how they treat their servers at restaurants" or close to that. I consider tipping and attitudes towards waitstaff and tips to be included in this.
people working at Jimmy John's expect tips?
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Faux Christian, not surprised.
It depends on how bad the tip is. Servers don't make minimum wage. It's legal because the assumption is that they are going to make tips to (at least) cover the difference. If someone gives you good service and you give them a bad tip you are basically saying that you're fine with them waiting on you for less than minimum wage.
Also, the fact that waitstaff aren't paid minimum wage is one reason really cheap restaurant owners will have them do a lot of food prep and set-up that would seem to be more in the job description of other staff (e.g., a cook, prep cook, etc.).
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Not gonna name names, but I'm kinda surprised at the number of scumbags in the thread.
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I'm a little confused by this logic. Let's see: you think someone who failed somewhere along the line should be punished for that failure by receiving smaller tips? I know a lot of guys who haven't done incredibly well with their lives so they joined the army. Should they get the higher-risk missions because, you know, eff them? What does a person's past have to do with the compensation/treatment for the job he or she is doing now?
There is no logic to it. There are many people older than college age who wait tables at chain restaurants as supplements to their other job(s). Failure? And who is calling whom entitled?
Thank you, Denicos.
Just in case people didn't read the article:
"A mother of three, Bell heads a 15-member church that rents a storefront space. Bell said she has a separate full-time job--which she declined to describe--and tithes 10 percent of her earnings to the church."
She pays herself, in other words.
I'm actually conflicted about this, because while I believe the pastor is an asshole, I also agree with Applebee's that her right to privacy was violated. Waitress should have been a tad more careful about cropping that photo.
The funniest part of this story is the idea that a woman can be a pastor.
Agreed. That is basically what we did except we didn't try to get a comp, we spoke to the manager after we paid the bill. My point though is that it is a cop-out to say that the 18% is put on by the restaurant so it is not the server's fault because it is the server that has the choice. I have also known servers who will be lazier in their service to larger parties because they know they have the 18% coming and that is crap in my opinion.
This is fantastically dickish.
Do you also apply this rule of thumb to other service industry employees like valets, barbers, strippers, etc?
It doesn't matter if its true or not. Who the hell are you to judge their life choices. You're tipping criteria is completely arbitrary. I would respect your opinion if you said "I refuse to tip for bad service" or something like that, but tipping poorly for someone that chooses to work a restaurant after they are college-aged is asinine and uses the oddest moral code I have ever heard of. In fact, I think those who called you a prick are underselling it. You are a self-righteous, illogical prick.
The pastor asked, "I give 10% to God. Why should I give more than 10% to you?" Answer is the server is doing a better job than God. And God's work shouldn't pay more than a server's work.
This post was edited by higginstavern 17 months ago
Wrong, you pay for a different level of service in first or business than you do in economy. Go to any airlines website and the level of service(meals, drinks, etc) is clearly listed for each type of cabin. Not to say you shouldn't be treated as a human being or with common courtesy depending on how much you pay(obviously there should be some base level of decency).
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