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why is it a waste? There is more to being a college football player than seeing yourself on TV or winning a Big10 championship. A lot more. They still get a free education and get to play football for their beloved team in front of family and friends.
The lack of scholarships will hurt their chances to be successful. No doubt about it, but it won't kill them. PSU will not become the worst team in that division, even with these sanctions.
Of course they won't, that honor is earned by Indiana annually. Forks down, Hoosiers.
These kids have until LOI day to decide just like any other recruit. They know what they're getting into, unlike all the players who already had their scholies and Emmert has turned into free agents. So no special transfer rules for them.
PSU's class looks like a solid core of those 6 who visited last weekend, plus Cothran, and maybe the DB from Florida who has no BCS level offers.
Also, just like Bradsahw just got the MSU offer he really wanted before settling on PSU, another LB recruit, Issah, just got the Oregon offer he really wanted before settling on PSU. So IF Issah actually has an offer he can commit to, it's a good bet he'll flip, and if not he might bail out anyway.
This post was edited by jetli 23 months ago
Top Pennsylvania running back takes Penn State off his short list
Published: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 11:54 PM
By ANDREW P. SHAY, The Patriot-News
David Williams, one of the top recruits in the Pennsylvania 2013 class, has removed Penn State from his short list in light of the recent NCAA sanctions according to ESPN.com.
Williams has added fellow Big Ten school Ohio State to his short list.
David Williams, the No. 17 ranked running back overall for the 2013 class, has added Ohio State to his short list.
No shocker here... Really, just a unfortunate situation, and you can't blame these kids for leaving. Only time will tell, but again my guess is on Signing day your looking at just shambles of a class..
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Christian Hackenberg reportedly reaching out to other schools; 8 reasons to choose Penn State football, and more
Published: Thursday, August 09, 2012, 8:07 AM
By Michael Sedor, PennLive.com
In today's Penn State football news, SBNation reports that Christian Hackenberg has reached out to other schools and wonders if he will stick with the Nittany Lions in light of Dorian Johnson's decommitment.
Either this website doesn't exist or is not currently available.
Yea, word is he has been quiet on twitter (which I guess is rare). I think it is only a matter of time until both Brenneman and Hackenberg decommit as well.
"Stats are for Losers." - Pat "Nardawg" Narduzzi
Saturday afternoon the Nittany Lions picked up their first recruit since the NCAA dropped its bomb on the football program. Washington D.C. cornerback Jordan Smith became the 10th member of Penn State's 2013 class according to report on 247Sports.
Smith, from Woodson High School, does not have a star rating or position ranking according to Scout.com. Smith also had offers from Hawaii, Kansas and Colorado. Smith attended Penn State's camp in June.
Jordan Smith is a 5-10, 185-pound defensive back from Woodson High School. He becomes the 10th member of Penn State's 2013 recruiting class.
Penn State Extends Offer to DB Kasey Gaines
Aug 19th, 2012 at 4:11 pm by Tim Tolley
Loganville, Georgia defensive back Kasey Gaines is the latest southern recruit to get offered by the Nittany Lions.
Gaines has offers from Harvard, Howard and VMI to go along with Penn State and according to multiple reports, the 5’10″ 160 pound safety has Penn State at, or near the top of his list.
Loganville, Georgia defensive back Kasey Gaines is the latest southern recruit to get offered by the Nittany Lions. Offer from Penn State! Believe whateve
Man, if the future of PSU recruiting are guys like this one and Jordan Smith (the only guy that's committed since the sanctions), Penn State is going to be really bad moving forward.
Congrats to the kid for the offer, but take an Ivy League education while playing football over PSU.. Plus at 160 do you really want to be tackling the likes of Dion Sims
This might be an indication of where Penn State’s football program is heading.
Late Wednesday, Penn State picked up its 10th commitment and first in a month when cornerback Kasey Gaines of Loganville (Ga.) pledged his services to the Nittany Lions. Gaines is only the second recruit to commit to Penn State since the NCAA handed down severe sanctions in July.
In recent years, Penn State battled recruiting rivals Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame and Pitt for top-flight talent. The commitment of Gaines might be a sign of things to come for Penn State. The 5-foot-10, 160-pound defensive back has four other scholarship offers—from FCS programs Howard, VMI, Presbyterian and Harvard. It’s no knock on Gaines, an excellent student who not surprisingly dreamed of playing in front of 100,000 fans one day, but it shows that Penn State will be recruiting a different type of player in the very near future.
Late Wednesday, Penn State picked up its 10th commitment and first in a month when cornerback Kasey Gaines of Loganville (Ga.) pledged his services to the Nittany Lions.
Eesh. Hope that other programs are simply missing out, for both PSU's and the kid's sake...
Best offer seems to be from Treadwell at Miami (OH).
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laconophilia is everywhere...
Penn State is enrolling at least four players early. They do not count against the reduced number of new scholarships for 2013.
Big recruiting weekend coming up
December 7, 2012
By Philip Cmor (firstname.lastname@example.org) , The Altoona Mirror
Penn State had a couple of big home games this season to use as a showcase for football recruits.
None of them, though, might mean as much as today and Saturday will to the Nittany Lions.
More than a dozen recruits are scheduled to take official visits to Penn State this weekend. Ten of those are high school seniors that already have announced plans to sign with the Nittany Lions.
Even with the sanctions, Penn State has at least five more scholarships available for this recruiting class because Breneman, Anderson and D.C. defensive back Jordan Smith all will be enrolling in January and will count as 2012 players. Waters also would be an early enrollee.
they enroll in January 2013, yet count as 2012 players, lol.
There just seems to be so much BS in NCAA FB these days. With scum getting a redshirt for gardner 3 years ago and now this? I'm sure its all legit, but these loopholes seem to be helping some teams more than others...
If these kids redshirt won't they be able to play in two bowl games and possibly win two Big Ten Championships? Yes their recruiting will suck this year but they can start selling kids on a bright future after next year.
Should've got the death penalty. PSU will never finish worse than 7-5 in any of their penalty years
It is the Freshman and Sophmores like Zettel who are truly screwed and it defies logic why they stayed. Once PSU gets through this next year, they will be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and if O'Brien stays they will be a force once again.
It's all conjecture of course, but I think they will be substantially worse off than that. Even with a king's ransom of talent at USC they faltered because they had no depth (partially). Their starters during sanctions are way better than PSU's BEFORE the sanctions, once Penn State's penalties really kick in they will be floundering. If you can't get good players, and have good players backing them up, you can't win. Penn St will be losing to Villanova once these sanctions really kick in.
Central Dauphin star Zayd Issah one of three players to commit to PSU's 2013 class this weekend
BOB FLOUNDERS, The Patriot-News
Penn State's recruiting weekend could not have ended up any better.
Central Dauphin standout linebacker Zayd Issah was one of three recruits to verbally commit to the Lions' program this weekend, along with Alabama linebacker Jonathan Walton and Valley Forge Military Academy defensive back Anthony Smith.
The Lions' 2013 haul is now 16 to commitments and four of them -- Cedar Cliff tight end Adam Breneman, Maryland defensive back Jordan Smith, Maryland running back Richy Anderson and Smith (per the internet reports) -- are expected to enroll in January. The early enrollees would count toward the 2012 class, a key distinction considering the NCAA sanctions cap PSU's recruiting classes -- beginning in 2013 -- at 15.
Issah, a PSU verbal earlier this year, had reopened his commitment after the NCAA sanctions were announced.
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The Big Ten's recent additions of Maryland and Rutgers were motivated in part by a concern of losing Penn State to another league, according to Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez.
Haters gonna hate!
USC has a terrible coach. I think next year could end up being the worst year for PSU. Breaking in a new QB and a lot the better players on the team will be juniors, which will help the next year (the year I was really expecting to be bad). The offense will be better throughout the sanction years than it was prior to this year simply because of the now competent coaching. The defense is where the setbacks are really going to occur. The secondary will be about the same as usual, but the lack of defensive line and linebacker depth will expose not only the front 7 but fail to do their usual job of masking the defensive back deficiencies.
PSU can get to 7 wins next year because of the schedule if nothing else. Landing the number 1 JUCO QB this week would be huge for PSU (down to KSU and PSU and it's probably a true 50/50 decision at this point).
When you're playing Temple, Eastern Michigan, Navy, Syracuse, Purdue, Indiana and Maryland you can go 7-5 even with D2 caliber players. Penn State is still pulling in a better class than 2/3 of the Big Ten with a 4 (now 3) year bowl ban. They won't falter too badly. O'Brien worked with overlooked guys like Woodhead and Edleman in New England and with only 53 players every week. He will find roles for the scrubby kids on the roster and make them into decent players. Zwinak was a fine runner for them this season and Robinson was the best WR in the league after not having an offer from either MSU or Michigan.
I agree.. unless the Big Ten gets a lot better in the next three years, Penn State won't have one losing season under sanctions.
This post was edited by Lunchables 19 months ago
With the reducing scholarships, the last year or two of sanctions and the first year out will be the most difficult. If O'Brien leaves, they should go get JLS and his JUCO magic.
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