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I readily admit Denard made a ton of plays. On designed runs. And under Rich Rod, faked/play action QB runs that left the WRs wide open. My point is he has rarely improvised, meaning turning a broken passing play into a significant gain on offense.
I said Gardner was the far better improviser, and the better passer. I did not say he was better at making plays overall. You are twisting my words.
Umm...are you saying that most or all of Robinson's runs were designed, rather than taking off when the first read wasn't there?
Because if so, I don't know what football games you were watching.
The point of this post isn't to debate whether they will be good so I will give you concerns re: qb. However, you point out them losing Ryan and Toussaint coming off an injury, and then say State retains almost everyone. DERP!!! Don't you mean except for what some may argue was their best defensive player and the starter from the exact same position you reference?
That is exactly what I am saying.
I don't know what games you were watching.
You think that Denard's slight hesitation on some runs to allow the running back to act as a lead blocker was him making a read?
Both coaching staffs Denard played under have hinted at the fact that Denard could barely make any reads at all.
Keric9823: And I'd upvote you if you once displayed the common sense God granted to an goddamned lemming. Looks like we're both going to be dissappointed today.
This post was edited by Onthebanksof 12 months ago
Not really worth responding to you. Feeding the troll is just going to make things worse.
Meechigan is always a contender in the medias and their fans eyes....Going into their 3-9 season they were a "contender", coming out of the 3-9 season they were a "contender". They could drop a 0-12 season and be listed as a contender going into the next season.
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And yet I keep responding to one. I guess I'm not that much smarter than the town idiot I'm conversing with.
Maybe it was...unless you were on the headset, or in the huddle, you have no way of knowing.
The fact that he couldn't make reads meant he had to improvise after the first passing option was covered anyway.
Our best defensive players last year were Dennard and Bullough.
Is that how that helmet flew so far after the Clowney hit?
Pretty much the height of improv. Clearly much better than Robinson.
So last year around this time, Denard was a shoe-in for the Heisman, and the greatest QB in college football history. Now he's a bum who was only holding back the REAL savior, Devin Gardner. How...predictable.
And I believe 13 of those TDs of which came against Iowa (6), Minnesota (3) and NW (4).
Should also note he threw an INT in every game he started.
And what because of an insanely lucky Hail Mary just to force OT... at home
Imagine if Maxwell actually performed well against all 3 of those teams.
Where did I say anything close to that? Wow, you have lost it.
What about it? No doubt it took a lot of luck. Some of you guys are way too sensitive.
I said Gardner was way better at improvising/scrambling than Denard. I did not say he was the second coming. Put away your jump to conclusions mat.
I also said I would take him over Maxwell, but that is not saying much.
I have not seen the Gardner yakety sax video, but will assume it is a knock off of the Jimmy Clausen yakety sax video. If watching it makes you feel good about facing Gardner, hey, whatever floats your boat dude.
Michigan Football just lost an asset. Mike Vollmer left their Athletic program for Tennessee.
We know the feeling.
It's kind of hard to label MSU either a contender or a pretender because of how good that defense is and how bad that offense is. The defense always keeps the team in the game but that offense always makes it hard to win the game. As long as the offense is average or better, MSU is a contender but if the offense is below average or atrocious, MSU is a pretender.
Denard was better on designed runs than pulling it down and running (after more than 1 read, which quite frankly would have been about the only thing I would have had him do), I agree. What I think you're trying to say is that Gardner is better at keeping his eyes down field when things break down and maintaining his arm as a threat and picking up short chunks with his legs when things break down.
The play where he was OVER THE LINE MARK IT ZERO in 2011 vs MSU was a really nice play and speaks to that ability, but an obvious sign of how poor his awareness was at that time.
This post was edited by Pylon St8ofmind 12 months ago
Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.
Something as small as one WR / RB / Returner becoming a home run threat may be the difference.
Also the D did a very poor job, relative to how stout they were, at generating points. (Getting juden'ed vs Nebraska on the Dennard return aside)
I believe MSU was one of only 2 teams to not have a 50 yard play last year... ALL SEASON.
Holy balls, that is unbelievable.
Hence, the "some may argue"
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