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YOu're kidding, right? Craft was on Harris just as much, how'd he do offensively? And Keith scored the final 4 pts in the last 20 seconds, right?
I loved Waltons' D. I was a strong supporter while the dickheads who knew nothing about his defensive value were cursing his name on this board.........but Craft is every bit as tough as a defender.
Oh, and by the way, mr. shortsighted, he does a wonderful job running his offense which is priority one for a point guard, ala Travis.
This post was edited by bozorules 15 months ago
Craft also had 3 steals in the last 2 1/2 minutes.
Can't believe anyone is down on the kid for being a tough defender.
There is a Bizarroworld where half of the dorks come from.
I must admit, despite sticking up for him, and respecting his play, I really, really, want to punch him in the face.
Craft "the douche" made Payne look pretty damn stupid on that steal, Payne is grabbing for air and falling on his face. Craft is the type of player that you want to punch out the entire game and then after the game you realize he's one of the best on ball defenders in college basketball.
Keith scored his final points when it counted most and Craft couldn't stop him? Sounds about right.
Sorry, I don't see it. And it's sad that you take such offense to someone claiming that Travis was a better defender. Craft is without a doubt a terrific defender, even when he doesn't get to get away w/ murder. But his reputation often allows him to defend in a manner that no other guard in the B10 is.
Wonderful job of running the offense? You must be blind. THe offense consists entirely of getting Thomas the ball and screening for him.
And how many of those were actually clean? Two were flat out tackles. He should have, once again, fouled out of the game. At least kramer got called for a lot of fouls. craft survives on hype.
Agree. And they weren't all stealthy reaching in plays. MSU was caught not protecting the ball at times.
Craft was brilliant down the stretch. Not many point guards who are known for their ball-hawking defense realize that when a 6'10" guy dribbles the ball he is very vulnerable. (I think our 6'10" guy may have learned that lesson last night).
Nah. He's the type of player who you look at and go "man that it is one talentless douche". Then after the game is over you realize "damn, the referees sure let that talentless douche get away with hacking everybody"
He's a less talented Teddy Dupay.
"losing Caleb Benenoch is a blow that Dantonio will never recover from. Izzo has lost it as well. Hoke and Beilein own the state."
I thought we liked rough play on defense? Am I thinking of a different Michigan State team and coach?
Craft's game does not translate to the NBA at all. He better enjoy his last couple years of playing basketball.
His "game" translates better to Greco-Roman wrestling than it does college bball
Physical play, I.e. Moving your feet and being strong with position, is one thing.
Bringing the hammer from above your head with nary a call, whether you get ball, arms, face, whatever is Craft's game, IMO.
I don't have a big problem with the kid. It's not his fault the refs have bought in to his rep: but they have big time. The play with about a minute to go and State up 2 where he FOULED App by the scorers table was brutal....he then passed the ball up to Thomas who missed the shot but made both free throws. If Thomas makes it and the free throw we could have easily lost that game.
But here's the thing: they let Walton get away with alot too guys because he EARNED it IMO. You guys hate Craft because he's a buckeye and could be mistaken for Bill Laimbeer's love child, but he's pretty legit overall. I just watched the 2nd half on my DVR and IZZo and his coaches love the kid, you can tell in post game handshakes: lots of respect for him frankly.
This post was edited by SPARTICUSS 15 months ago
"Craft is one of the best defenders. You've got to give him credit, he's a great defender," Burke said.
Beilein: "Craft is as good a defender as I've ever seen. He's tremendous."
Craft is a great college PG. I would take him on my team in a second.
...as I said in my comments above: the kid is like Bill Laimbeer's mini me. You want to smash him in the FACE if your an opponent. If he's your teammate you defend him to the death because you know he gets in opponents heads. Kid is effective. He'll play in Europe IMO. He'll also get in numerous fights because they don't play defense like that over there: not consistently anyway. But he can make a decent living for a while in a Euro league.
Yup, me too. The Journey's piece on him was pretty interesting. Pre-med and carries a 3.9 gpa. I'm past that point in life where I can't stand players just because they're on another team. If they're dicks, that's different--of course. I'd take Craft in a second (get him to work on his shot, though).
People who don't see a blatant foul against Payne on that "steal" are blind.
I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.
LOL, his goal is to go to med school and he'll get there with his 3.9 GPA. Wish him well but also wish refs would call all his hacking...
This post was edited by Bender 15 months ago
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Too many fans watch the game with green-tinted glasses. That was a good play. Craft exploited Payne while he wasnt paying attention.
Walton would flat out shut guys down. Positioning, strength, and ability.
Craft is all hands. Hands on the back, arms, pushing/nudging guys off the ball. I would love to see the arms of guys he guards after the game. There is a difference between good and effective. Walton was good, Craft is effective. Both methods work, only 1 should be legal based on written rules.
I wonder if anyone has ever accused Michigan State players of being too physical on defense...of bringing a football mentality to the game...maybe of even doing a War drill in practice...
That's different though.
Again, physical is one thing, getting your knees buckled then being allowed to fully extend your arm, grab a guy, and pull even only to hack him 3 more times on the move is another.
Edit: huh, upside down, I suck at the internet apparently
This post was edited by Larry Kazamias 15 months ago
I'm pretty sure Izzo said basically the same thing after a game last year, too. Billy Donovan also.
Coaches love him. Fans hate him.
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