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Jack Nicklaus or Tiger Woods, who ya got? Oh I know, Old Tom Morris because he is more important to the history of the game.
"Moss has never played less than 13 games a season"........is this physically or mentally?
Can you imagine if there was more passing during the Gene Washington era? Charley Taylor? Warfield? Allworth?
I wonder if any of these classy veterans will casually cross paths this week and remind Moss about respecting the past , present and future of the NFL?
Nicklaus in his prime would compete just fine with Woods. But then we're talking about WR in fball, not golfers. or cars.
This post was edited by RP McMurphy 15 months ago
I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.
I would say that Moss is a more physical specimen than Jerry Rice, but Jerry Rice was a better professional, a better teammate and a harder worker. Rice played 20 years as a receiver, which is why he has all those records. But he wouldn't have played that long if he didn't bust his ass in the weight room. Rice did have Montana and Young throwing it to him though, and even MVP Rich Gannon when he went to Oakland. Not a bad living.
Calvin Johnson will be among the greatest receivers ever when he retires (barring injury). His speed, height, jumping ability, intelligence, willingness to go over the middle make him the best receiver in football -- and it's not even close.
What is that, a Titleist? A hole in one...
So by that logic, the numbers of all modern era running backs have to be adjusted upward...you know, to account for how all they did was run it back in the "olden days?" I mean, you can't have it both ways.
FTR: Jim Brown is the greatest running back in history and nobody could ever convince me otherwise.
I know that Moss isn't the GOAT, but you guys are just wrong if you don't think he's up there. You are letting your old man bias show, big time.
Remind yourself. Nobody built like you, you design yourself.
Anyone who was alive and watched the years with Moss in Minnesota knows that Cunningham and Culpepper was no Joe Montana or Steve young.
He played with Chris carter but Chris carter was on the decline.
Minnesota pretty well sucked without Moss and he singlehandedly carried that team for years.
Jerry rice was better no doubt but I think you have to put him second or at least up there in the top 2 or 3.
Everyone who says moss sucks because he doesn't have a ring:
I hope you say the same thing about Barry sanders too. At least moss made it to the Super Bowl twice and the NFC championship game.
Randy Moss had a bad attitude. You can google top wide receivers of all time. Whether you look at a list involving stats or not, Moss will show up as number 2 most of the time. Sometimes you have to set your feelings aside and recognize what the player accomplished.
Pretty pathetic you're making excuses for all these other guys? What about Moss? He played with Carter.
Whaterver. You got me on Carter. What about the others?
Those guys don't need me to make any excuses for them. I just listed one of the aspects of their statistics that suggested the others had counterparts who were pretty damned good. I also listed some other pretty f-in convincing statistics to go along with that ONE aspect. And if I'm not wrong, I think all of them are in the Hall (or will be soon enough). So no excuses here.
So are you claiming that Moss is the best receiver ever to play in the NFL, Dale? If you are, cool. We agree to disagree. If you aren't, then you aren't articulating your point very well. You may want to read my initial post where I wrote that I thought Jerry Rice was the best receiver of all time and I think there were about 10 or 12 others who were better considering their stats and the game at the time they played. That's 10 or 12 out of, what, thousands of receivers who have ever played in the NFL. Not arguing that Moss isn't a future Hall of Famer.
So relax, champ. To be honest, I just took a couple minutes initially to type a list off the top of my head. I never claimed my list was THE END OF ALL LISTS.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by One Eyed Jack 15 months ago
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