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State and IU at the top. Hard not to give IU a slight edge.
So my guess is
If he was J-Rich then he'd be starting by now
Rogue Leader= Obese coward who didn't attend MSU and has no college degree
I'll take a shot and I'm going to assume Sullinger stays as he strikes me as a kind of guy that would prefer to stay in college so he can play against inferior competition most nights instead of playing against equals in the NBA.
12. Penn State
J-Rich didn't start as a freshman either. If Thompson starts, who sits? He can't play guard. Do you sit Buford, Thomas, or Sullinger? Who knows how he'll develop, but he looks just like J-Rich as a freshman, to me.
He pretty much just said after the game that he's going pro
You have a problem with your memory.
7) the rest
Yeah i do terrible at this basketball stuff. Sorry about that.
I think he's right about him not starting his freshmen year. The lineup that year was....
Just got curious and compared the 2 guys' freshmen stats. Pretty similar. J-Rich averaged 6 more minutes and 3 more points. J-Rich has the edge in rebounds and steals. Thompson has the edge in blocks. Assists, FG% and FT% exactly the same.
You could line up youtube videos of their freshman years dunks pretty evenly too. I guess my memory is ok after all. I'm relieved.
Novak and Douglass were senior leaders. Their departure will be significant. Also, they overachieved this year (like us) and I think we will see the law of averages correct on that.
I am also thinking a few down teams have better than expected years. Illinois and Minnesota. UM I think has the 4th or 5th best roster in terms of talent, but they'll underperform without senior leadership.
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If true this is about as brutal as it gets.
There is no law of averages in sports such as this, too many variables.
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You should probably retire from betting and analyzing then. Because any bettor worth a lick knows injuries, defections, suspensions, etc. happen/are a key part of the game and uses them to their advantage.
Anything can happen.
My point exactly. OSU is several "anythings" happening away from being a 6th place team. Sure, it's possible, but they'd have to drop several key guys. I'm comfortable with my assertion. (and i'm on a roll...)
Are you saying that he redshirted this year and had a very productive year? How is that possible?
That is akin to saying that Kearney is CDR in waiting. You may be correct, but there is nothing tangible for you to base this off of. ALL that Thompson is at this point is a ridiculous athlete who gets garbage points. Dude's shot is completely broke, and his handles are weak. Sure, he may develop those, but that would be a pretty big leap for him. J-Rich was also a top recruit - Thompson wasn't nearly as highly regarded coming out of high school. I'd cool it a bit before I compare a freshman who averaged two points a game to one of the more talented players in MSU basketball history.
UM's roster next year, if Burke leaves (probable), with their minutes and points from last season:
Matt Vogrich (10.7 mins, 2.3 ppg)
Josh Bartelstein - walk-on (1.3, 0.3)
Blake McLimans (4.2, 0.8)
Jordan Morgan (24.4, 7.3)
Eso Akunne (4.0, 1.7)
Jon Horford (10.8, 2.7)
Tim Hardaway (34.2, 14.6)
Max Bielfeldt - DNP (red shirt)
Mitch McGary, Glenn Robinson, Stauskas - Freshmen
Unless those three freshmen are Calipari level one-and-dones, they're not sniffing the final four.
But you're forgetting that Mitch McGary is god
I agree with thus although I would put Minny behind Wiscy/SCum. That team should finish 4th but there has been a lot of underachieving and injuries under Tubby IMO.
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Assuming Sullinger leaves and with the Michigan transfers I have
1. Indiana 2.MSU 3.Wisconsin 4.Michigan 5.Ohio St. 6. Minn. Things can change if more players leave for the NBA or transfer (Trey Burke leaving early Would definatly cause Michigan to fall to the bottom half of the conference).
Point taken and i'll back off, but the expectation is a little different with Thompson being a power forward. My main point was to say that OSU has plenty of potential waiting to blossom even if 4 guys from this year split for the NBA.
Someone explain to me why Michigan will finish in the top 4ish or so in the conference? I don't really see it.
I don't know if they do though. Sully is a huge loss. As is Buford, even though he was disappointing this year.
Craft will be back; if Thomas returns, that should be enough to keep them in the upper ecehlon of the B1G. Thomas will be the conference's leading scorer... but they will have huge holes on the roster. Thompson will need to develop a shot and handles. Shannon Scott will need to step up. Lenzelle Smith and Ravenel are nice role players, but Thad needs his superstars. He can coach, but he has always had the benefit of studs like Conley, Oden, Cook, Lighty, Turner, THomas, and Sully. If it is only Craft and Thomas as the "stars", OSU will be mighty thin and too dependent upon two players, one of which is a ballhog and the other can't score very well.
If Thomas leaves, then they will struggle I think. Possibly big time. A lineup of Craft, Shannon Scott, Thompson, Ravenel and Lenzelle will inspire fear in no one. The only strong point on that team is a defensive minded PG who has made his name based on throwing passes down low to a terrific big man. They'd be in trouble.
I think Drew Crawford will probably lead the conference in scoring next year. Not saying hes the best player, but i think he will be forced to score like 20-22 a game for that team.
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