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I'm not talking about academics in an altruistic sense. I'm saying money for the schools' long term viability. You can only raise tuition so much. Community colleges are becoming a viable alternative for many now. This move isn't so much about who we want to fill out schedule with as much as making sure these schools are in a sustainable position for the next 30+ years.
yea ND, enjoy your 5 games with Wake, Pitt, Cuse, Louisville and BC after the southern wing of the ACC will now move west.
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Expansion is all about affordable education?
Nebraska is a good enough school academically and IIRC got screwed on the AAU membership.
I really think that Delany's endgame is to force ND into becoming the 16th member of the B1G. If he has to blow up the ACC to do it, well, they're just collateral damage.
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I do find it kinda sad and funny that the big10 just added GT and RU
RU just lost the bigEast title game, and GT is about to get smoked by FL ST. in the ACC title game. Talk about failing up
"Put your mother in a straight-jacket you punk ass white boy." ~ Mike Tyson
The only thing they really care about is the tv market.
The problem is Notre Dame won't give up their football independence and really what would be their incentive to do so? They would already be in the B10 for everything else if the B10 caved like the big east and ACC. The only way I can see them giving it up if it really screws them in the new playoff and I doubt it will because the ncaa will give into them same as they did with the bcs.
From an interesting article. I won't post the whole thing as it is long but pm me and I'll forward it. It's interesting.
State and Federal Grants
With 11 current AAU members and soon to be 13 AAU members, the Big Ten collectively gobbles up billions of dollars in grants. There are likely more than a hundred people employed within the Big Ten whose sole job is to write grant proposals. In fact, it is a safe guess to say the number of professional grant writers within the conference might number several hundred. Why? Because it is big money. If you can hire someone for $40,000 a year, and they can land you 3 grants worth $15,000,000 then you have obviously come out ahead.
But grant writing is competitive. Each university and often multiple departments within a university are all vying for the same, increasingly limited, dollars. You have to be able to make your pitch better than anyone else, and to do this you want to show the government you are not only stretching those dollars to the fullest by involving the most experts with the best facilities, equipment, and investment in future students. In sum, you are doing the most good with the money entrusted to you.
How do you improve your grant proposal while simultaneously cutting costs? You collaborate. When you collaborate with another university by sharing your findings with one another, you can frequently double or even triple the work force, design better studies, and emerge with not only more creative results but more reliable results.
What could adding another 4 AAU members mean to the Big Ten?
It could mean billions – yes, billions with a ‘B’ in grants. Split 17 ways (including the University of Chicago), each university might take home another $100,000,000 every year. Even if it only resulted in another $40,000,000 a year for each university that’s more than the Big Ten Network athletic payout.
Wasn't one of the ideas being discussed, at least on the interwebz, during the first round of expansion being that when the four, 16 team super conferences are formed, they'd tell the NCAA to screw off and set up their own playoff system. If that were the case, it would be pretty easy to tell ND to join a conference or get left behind.
It's amazing how many people on this board seem like their still fighting the civil war.
Personally, I would much rather have a team from Atlanta in the conference than one from a sewer like New Brunswick, NJ.
This is getting old now. The big ten is losing its identity. A 16 team conference is no fun. Playing some teams like once every 10 years won't make it feel like a very close knit conference. 14 is pushing it...16 is too much.
Right. Nate Silver had a great graphic on his blog after MD and Rutgers were added that showed where the nation's recruiting talent comes from. If part of expansion is to improve recruiting opportunities, SOUTH is the direction we need to go.
But most importantly, of course, Atlanta has a lot of cable viewers...
Yeah, with 16 you are going to have 8 teams you will see once every 8 years at SS.
Unless they break them up into 4 team divisions like the pros. Which is what I would expect now.
This conference sucks....
Doesn't matter. We have two teams on the eastern seaboard as well. Geography means nothing anymore.
Maybe the Big 12 is accepting applications.
The U of Chicago is still an academic member of the conference?
The Big Ten is an athletic conference only. All Big Ten schools plus the University of Chicago are members of the CIC. That's the collaborative academic organization that earns all the real money.
I played around with this idea yesterday, but if the BIG does go to 16 teams i think changing to a four pod system is best.
8 game conference schedule: 3 games in pod, 3 rotating inter-pod games, and 2 protected rivalries. This would make sure that you play every team at a minimum of twice every 8 years.
9 game conference schedule: 3 games in pod, 3 rotating inter-pod games, and 3 protected rivalries. This would make sure that you play every team at a minimum of twice every 6 years.
Change the BIGCCG to a 2 week playoff (just end scheduling a week earlier).
Shouldn't it be 4 inter-pod games? You play your three pod members, plus the other 4 that are in your "division" plus one or two rivals.
Also, one protected rivalry, with an alternate rival for years in which you are in the rival's pod makes sense to me.
Eat or be eaten! This is conference war. I'd rather be proactive.
the details im not so concerned about, i just think this gives MSU the opportunity to play more teams. Also, it makes sure fans have an opportunity to see different teams almost every year.
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