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Bing has the city's best interests at heart. It's a shame city council refuses to see them. They're like Kwame's cronies
That was something I meant to touch on in my earlier post. Archer was an upstanding man. A fine bridge back to normalcy after the abortion that became Coleman's tenure. He was making progress (honestly I'm probably too young to make anything other than generalizations about his time in office) and he had enough of the BS and elected to return to his private practice rather than continue to try to save those who were not willing to help themselves.
In steps the clown prince, Kwame, and his bag of magic tricks. The mentality in the D is so poor, that given an entire term of this fool and his obvious corrupt administration and shenanigans, the voters opted to re-elect him despite his atrocities. Why? Because the much more qualified, savvy, legitimate fit for the position, one Freeman Hendricks, was "too white" of a black man, or, more specifically, he was the sensible and publicly backed choice by the rest of the region (i.e. suburbs).
So, essentially, they re-elected a known crook just to spite the suburbs.
Knibb High football rules
What a fucking shame...and unfortunately, of little surprise. It seems that whenever the city has the opportunity to make a sound rational choice or a completely illogical, batshit-crazy choice, it always picks the latter. That said...
Warning...incoming skuttlebutt. Just bear with me on this for a second. I work in Highland Park at an private agency that has a lot of connections and business contracts into the operations of the local municipalities and Wayne County as a whole. My main work is as a psychologist, hence the avatar, but I also work in the administrative side of the company. Essentially, the entire county is fucked. It faces continued revenue decreases and no means to raise revenue. It can no longer cut services and function as a civil operation, and has announced it basically borrow money to fund operations. The rumblings at my agency is that the county will be under state control - that is, a financial manager - in the next 3 months. As a result, we are preparing for the upcoming tectonic shift in the landscape. If the county falls, the city of Detroit falls. I say this because while I am disappointed by the continued stupidity displayed by those running the city, I am confident the entire system, from Robert Ficano down to the Detroit City Council will be gutted. There will be an absolute meltdown, I'm sure, since the "motives" will be solely driven race, but it will even out, and I hope the state will balance out the finances in the long term. It is not as bad as it looks.
1. Someone fill me in. How does the State owe the city Millions in Revenue sharing?
2. And 6.2 mil in decreased costs is not exactly a giveaway, that is a hell of a lot of policemen, Firemen, and others that can be hired with that kind of loot.
That lady is crazy!
Wob is laughing in the back of his hot dog joint after reading your post
this is the only argument against the state proposal that has any remote sensibility to it (and that is probably stretching it...) The rest of the stuff is total crazy talk.
"It is a slap in the face of the city to even try to take something or disassemble something that is known for Detroit, known for the people here."
Seriously? It's still going to be in Detroit. The state isn't planning to detach the island and sail it up to Mackinac or something.
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I used to believe that, not so sure any more.
If you remember Bing's State of the City speech a couple years ago, he called on the State to pay Detroit what they were owed. Apparently Detroit thinks the State owes Detroit $230 million dollars or something close to it.
Debts the Detroit lawsuit claims the state owes the city:
• $39,730.58 for "electrical services" to the DNR and MDOT.
• $1,255 for delinquent parking tickets for state-owned vehicles.
• $1,395,377.10 for unspecified invoices to DNR and MDOT.
• $4,723,926.65 for water and sewer at the state fairgrounds.
• $267,946.76 for storm-water drainage on state highways.
• $224 million for unpaid revenue-sharing funds.
Bing also publically called out Mike Ilitch in December saying he owes $1.5 million in taxes.
The more I see of Bing, the more I think he is becoming one of them.
The Children of the Corn. Typical Detroit, always asking for others to bail them out, and putting a band aid on the problem.
I heard on NPR tonight that the $11 yearly cost would only come into play if you brought a vehicle to the island, and it would also gain you entry to any other state park for the year. If you walk or ride a bike in, it's free. Basically like every other state park.
But, the opposition said it had always been free, so they don't like it.
Not one follow up question on whether anyone considered that the fact that it isn't feasible to maintain with zero revenue. The current state of the island is proof enough of that isn't it?
The state was going to accept $6MM/year in upkeep and operating costs, after putting millions into it to begin with. Then, after 30 years, the city of Detroit has the option of taking it back free of charge. If someone wants to take over my mortgage, promise to make the payments and maintain my house for 30 years, THEN give me the option of just having it back later...yeah, I'd take that in a heart beat.
Archer was the best chance for a city recovery. He knew that dealing with the city clowncil was a hopeless case and bailed, and I don't blame him. I'm sure Joann Watson thinks that Obama will "deliver the bacon" and bail out the city since they backed his election.
If they're expecting a bail out, they better get in line fast, behind Illinois, California....
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I agree with you.
I think Archer had good intentions, and realized Detroit was a clusterfuck, and bailed.
Can't blame him.
Pssst!...Take a look around and make a realistic assessment of what's left outside of the downtown area.. How do you plan on redeveloping the 8 miles of war zone? Who the hell is going to finance that, let alone make an investment? The City will never rebound, it has lost all of its wealth and its tax base. It is close to being the setting for a Kurt Russell movie.
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"I think the world is run by C students"
All of you need to do some praying. Pray to Jesus. Pray to buddah, play to Allah, pray to Coleman young, have him meet you on the ancestral plane, tell you what to do.
"As far as the downvotes. It's a gnat biting an lion"
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This garbage is allowed to stay, but no more swear words! Is this place turning into tBB or what?
That is a quote from the city council meeting.
When the Engler administration was trying to reduce/eliminate city income taxes, he made a deal with Detroit and several other cities that their revenue share would be increased if they reduced their income tax rate to a designated level over a period of five years. Detroit held up their end of the deal, but when the state ran out of money in 2007, they did not pay out the full revenue share to the city.
I consider that cheap. Maybe you think you deserve free infrastucture and maintenance thereof. You from the the D?
Fascinating dialogue on a very difficult topic. I share some of your passions and frustrations, and I feel despair that the D will never be what it was and won't discover a new potential.
It was just a mistake;
I didn't mean to let them take away my soul.
Am I too old?
Is it too late?
This is the first time in almost 20 years the state of Michigan has a Governor that has the best interest of Detroit at heart.
Snyder will help Detroit, but he also wants it to help itself.
I don't get the City Council and residents disdain for him. At the meetings regarding Belle Isle the people fighting the leasing agreement refuse the help, but don't have any answers to the problems.
Detroit is a mess, and it's just going to get worse (if that's possible) and the residents and council don't seem to care.
This post was edited by lmc55 15 months ago
I honestly wish I could say that I disagree with you, but it's getting to the point where I think Detroit might be beyond saving. I follow Detroit news and government pretty closely - I like Dave Bing and think he is trying his best to turn Detroit around, but he is working along side a freak show. The attitude that Coleman Young did a pretty good job of grinding into the city has been "Detroit vs. the suburbs" - at one point, Coleman actually gave an interview where he talks about the "hostile suburbs." The fact is, the suburbs are full of people who want to help. Detroit needs people from the suburbs - and other areas of the state - to come into Detroit, spend money, etc.
This whole mess with Belle Isle is a pretty good demonstration of what Detroit has become. During a time when the city is collapsing financially and can't even offer the most basic services and protection for its citizens, the council is up in arms about a "racist take over" of a park. Pathetic. I've been reading quotes from the council debates on Belle Isle. At one point, a council member said that the 6 million they would be getting from the state and saving from park maintenance "isn't anything" - funny, it seems to me like 6 million would be a good start for keeping the floundering Public Safety departments afloat.
The council is afraid of Snyder - they know that if he moves in with an Emergency Financial Manager (as I believe that he should), the City Council Clubhouse will be closed for business. So now the council does their best to rile up the citizens, get them pissed off about Snyder's "racist take over". Gov. Snyder knows that for Michigan to shake its reputation as a stink hole state, Detroit needs to bounce back - Snyder and Bing seem pretty committed to working together to try and make that happen, but they are being met with a lot of resistance from the council.
I'm not one bit surprised by this. The city council has always been just a bunch of corrupt idiots and Detroit will always be a shithole because of it. Sad, but every year I find fewer reasons to go down to the city. If they want to keep the city a wasteland that's fine with me.
Yeah, I voted in November, but it felt kind of pointless for the most part
I equate this to having a really bad lawn at my house. I pay $80 a month to get it sprayed, cut, edged, etc. Nothing works. I live on a corner and my bad lawn affects my neighbors; they hate the sight of it, they hate what it does to the overall feel of the neighborhood, etc. Let's say I live somewhere that allows me to work on it year round. So, close to a grand a year I'm spending, fruitlessly.
My neighbor comes over and throws out an offer. Says that he'll take over the care of my lawn. The first thing he'll do, he says, is put about $20k into it. New sprinkler system, new sod, new landscaping. He'll continue to employ my current lawn service because I'm concerned about him losing money.
All I have to do is pay my neighbor $11 a year, and agree not to lift a finger maintaining my lawn. He'll continue to maintain my lawn for a decade and at that time we'll sit down and figure out if the deal is working for both of us. If so, we'll continue for another decade.
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