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Wewll if your students are not at least trying to learn altissimo in middle school then they probably will never be good sax palyers...
This post was edited by TrapperGus 2 years ago
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They will be better at music than you have been at spelling in this thread.
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I can do a pretty good imitation of this guy with my alto sax
Just love being SAXROLLED - Moldova - SAX GUY EDITION - Eurovision Song Contest 2010 Semi Final 1
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Speeling is the drug of small minds my friend...BTW where did you attend M-School? MSU has now an outstanding sax prof in Joe so just wondering...but my statement stands...it is easy to play the sax poorly...fairly easy to paly well enough for the MSU Marching Band...and very very hard to play it well for Don Sinta...
One time music major at MSU, in saxophone. I dropped and graduated with an English degree. After college I was a saxophonist In the army. Now I play at church and in bar bands.
It was 1988 I believe the faculty prof's name was James Forger. My instructors were TAs.
what is you opinon of the difficulty of the sax...I have heard of Forger...was MSU a studio school at the time?
I would hope so... he's the Dean of the College
Yup...I knew I heard that name...does he still teach and perform?
Only on tRCMB would you have a band instrument war.
Nope but I will give Tevor his due...he allows a lot of latitude on the main board...
Played alto, tenor, and bari in highschool symphony bad, jazz band, and marching band -- marched 3 years as tenor in the SMB. Put them all away and got them out once for alumni band in 1999.
Haven't played since, but now my kids are bugging me to (re)start, so we'll see... They said if I didn't do alumni band next year, they're gonna kick my ass...
Okay not studio then...the child went to Sinta's studio at UofM where tthe Prof teaches...private lessons each week and 3 hours of studio insrtuction weekly...8 hrs of pactice daily expected...
MSU, of course. Jon Nichol taught all of us music ed majors how to play the sax while I was there. Heard Luloff play many times.
Joesph Ludoff...thanks the memory is not what it was...went to a recital back in 2004...
Still Don accepted the child and Joe did not...always thought that it was rigged...aka they split the students between them before the auditions...at least the in state students...
...for real, man?
I began playing the Saxophone in 7th grade at Walter French Jr High. Amel Eiland was the band director. I had originally wanted to play drums, like my brother, but Mr Eiland had instituted a new policy where anyone who played drums had to play a win instrument first.
I probably should add that, at this point, my two major musical influences were
1) my brother. One hell of a technical drummer for a 9th grader. Seriously.
2) Tim Cunningham. I had heard him play when I was in 6th grade, and he was 9th grade at WFJH. Incredible. Dude was smooth in 9th grade, and one important thing I learned at that point was "chicks dig the saxophone"
SO: 7th grade, saxophone.
8th grade, I switched to Drums. With my brother moved on to Everett HIgh, I was suddenly the stud drummer at WFJH. And I found that chicks dig the drumline! No doubt.
9th grade: Sax in one class, drums in another. Always drums in Marching band.
10th grade: Everett High. Drumline, and the bari sax in Jazz Band. Awesome good time. This is when I first heard a fella play at MSU by the name of Joe Luloff. The dude was incredible. He was in the Jazz Band at MSU at the time. I worshipped the guy. We used to imitate him in jazz band class. Shoulders wiggling, uncontrollably. We could look like him, but damn, we couldnt sound like him.
Summer after 10th grade I played in the drumline at the UF Summer Music School. Top audition on Drums, 2nd to top on Saxophone. So, drumline, and symphonic band. (I was also recieved my first college scholly offer at the end of this camp)
11th grade: Bari Sax in Jazz Band. Drumline in marching band. Alto Sax in Symphonic Band. Or at least this is how it started. I eventually began to play the oboe as well. And then English Horn (a bigger oboe). And then bassoon. By the time the year was over, I had played every woodwind instrument in at least ONE concert.
I also played Bari Sax in the Lansing All-City Jazz Band. Good times. Great talent.
Summer after 11th grade: UF music school. Top Drumline Audition. 2nd Symphonic Alto, and 1st Alto in Jazz band. Played some kick as music in the Jazz Band. "Summer of 42" was written for Alto, it was me, a piano, and a little filler music. Im pretty certain I was full wood playing that thing to about 600 HSers and parents. A year and something later, as a college freshman at UF, this song got me the hottest of all gf's ever. She stalked me down, was a fellow freshman, and a baton twirler that was at the camp. Chicks dig the saxophone.
12th grade. drumline. Alto in Jazz Band. 1st Alto in Lansing All City Jazz Band. Oboe in Symphonic Band. And by the time the year was over, I had played every wind instrument in concert, at least once. effing trumpet blows ass. Hated it.(mouth piece size is all I can imagine) me and the trombone got along very well. and me and the F-Horn were not enemies. Trumpet sucked.
In All City Jazz band I was teamed with a fella by the name of Paul Ojibway. FREAKING AWESOME talent. I would play the song the first time through, and then, strictly from memory, he would play it with me after that. He couldnt read music at the time, but was one of the best I have ever had the pleasure of playing music with, on any level. Incredible. Paul E-O, for those who want to google him.
Still kept a close eye on Joe Luloff. damn the guy was good. Loved listening to him play.
Freshman year. Took my talents to my first scholly offer at UF. (Music Major. tom Lilly was Sax Professor. Good dude) played Tenor Sax in Summer Session Jazz Band. Sang solo on stage for the first time. (MacArthur Park) Showed up drunk to my drumline audition. That sucked. Eventually was talked into playing Tenor Sax in marching band (had to play something in marching band, because I was on scholly) Had a good time, played in the pregame at the superbowl. the chicks were still digging the saxophone. played alto in basketball pep band. bored. drank and chased skirts until my scholly was gone.
Sophomore year. (aka, my second freshman year) MSU - Music Major. James Forger/Rhonda Buckley was my TA: Drumline. (Tenors. all I ever played in Drumlines. Cause Im badass) Alto in Spartan Brass. Too many memories that I will never remember because I was too drunk. Never fulfilled my potential because I was too busy chasing skirts, and drinking. (the two things that I did best in college) Auditioned for SMB on Tenor Sax for the next year, made it, but never came back to school. I sucked as a human.
Two years later I went back to school. music scholly to LCC. got my damn associates, one pissed of instructor away from valedictorian. (used to date his sister, might have something to do with it) Played Tenor Sax in Jazz Band for 2 years there.
IRONY HITS: In 1996, I enrolled my daughter in Montessori Radmoor School in Okemos. A year later, I was sitting at a little school gathering. The kids were showing the parents what they do every day in school, the parents participate in all the cool stuff. Im playing with some little number game and I look next to me and there is this goofy looking kid and his dad, Joe Luloff. His kid, and my kid, are going to school together. Joe and I became good friends. His kid and my kids are extremely good friends still today. Him and his wife and two of the greatest people I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. Love that family. (and Joe's kid Jordan is now at MSU and is one helluva saxophonist. Google him sometime.. Like father(and mother), like son!!
SO, my kids also played the saxophone. One played through HS, and the other played through middle school and is now one of the top HS vocalists in the state of TN. I blame it all on Tim Cunningham and Joe Luloff.
BTW and FWIW: I still own the Mark VII that my parents bought me in 1983. Mint condition. And I also still own the Tenor Sax that my aunt played at WFJH in the 1950s. I still play both of them on occassion. I let my kid play my Selmer during her senior year of HS. Good times.
This post was edited by GatorBill 2 years ago
If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day.
I played alto in HS; went to Europe with the blue lake jazz enxemble. My daughter started playing alto in school and rather than send my mark VI to be destroyed I picked up a classic 1948 king zephyr for her. I still had it on the bench after repadding it and was finishing the pearls and voicing on her first day of school. Her teacher was shocked when she asked if my daughter had a horn she said "my dad bought a broken horn on ebay and is fixing it in our basement.". She mentioned her concern to the other teacher who said "I've seen his other horn - I'm sure it willl be fine."
This post was edited by stlspartan 2 years ago
I play alto, I'm a jazz studies major at MSU.
Well couildn't see why Don would accept but not Joe...so sort of...
I've played saxophone, violin, and guitar proficiently. I've been playing piano just as long as saxophone but am not even in the same hemisphere. Having said that, I would say piano is the hardest instrument. Woodwind and brass instruments that have to deal with one note doesn't compare to two hands worrying about rhythm and melody.
Hell, I'd say even guitar is harder than sax.
Sax came real easy to me though... guitar I had played since I was a wee-lad and before I could remember anything. So maybe it's just that.
I've played a lot of instruments and one that always seemed difficult to me is the flute.
I played Alto is concert band, tenor in jazz band and marched bari-sax for a class A state champion marching band that placed #12 at BOA Nationals.
C'mon, Gob_Bluth, why no love for the bone?
I got my degree from MSU in trombone and spent (or misspent!) many years playing all over the world. Can't say I regret a minute of it, and it's how I met my wife (despite my occasional rant in the 'wife is a bitch thread). I have a lot of respect for you and anyone else who can teach middle school or high school music -- I never had the patience. I used to teach privately on occasion, and it was all I could do to keep from murdering some of my students.
I never found saxophone that difficult to play, albeit at a mediocre level at best. Clarinet, on the other hand ... They don't call it the 'agony stick' for nothing. French horn is the most difficult of the brass instruments, and I play them all.
If you want to talk about instruments that are difficult to play well, I submit that the bagpipe fits that category. I'm currently looking to buy a set of Northumbrian pipes, which were apparently designed by Satan himself. Have to convince the wife that it's worth a couple of thousand pounds to buy an instrument that I may or may not ever be able to master.
To achieve great things, two things are needed; a plan, and not quite enough time. -- Leonard Bernstein
I have never played a sax - but I have fantasized playing one. I sound just like Stan Getz - you'd be impressed.
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