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Yeah, I like Trice, but you have to put your best players on the floor. Splitting time between Appling and Harris would be insane.
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The offense runs a lot better when Keith is at point. Trice is better used a shooter and back-up PG when Appling needs a break.
Even if we acquired this mythical "pure passer from wherever", splitting time between Harris and Appling hurts us. Hypothetically and realistically, Seth Davis is wrong.
"True" point guards really don't exist anymore. And if they do, it's because they can't shoot that well.
We do need legit ball handlers though. It showed last year when we got beat my Louisville. Trice's handles are very suspect and Keith has some good dribbling skills, but pressure is a different thing.
They're out there. Burke is a true pg, and he can shoot it well. He runs the pick and roll as well as anyone I've seen in years.
No Burke is a natural scorer just like Appling.
He can score no doubt, that doesn't mean he isn't elite at running the point. 'True PG' doesn't mean can't score.
This is coming from the same guy who wrote that Nick Stauskus is one of the most clutch shooters in the country because he made a bunch of threes in his backyard over Christmas break
A true PG is pass first like Nash, Burke isn't a pass first player.
7.2 assists/game is pass first. That leads the conference by a mile and is top ten nationally. He's a pure pg who scores a lot because his entire offense is going good. He is an elite ball handler whose offense goes through him.
At times MSUs offense looks much better when trice has been at point and Keith has been on the bench. Mostly when he struggles offensively. He isn't at the point where he can drive and dish and get 10 assists a game.
Overall though this article is stupid. Keith appling is a stud and has proved that over the past year and a half.
I can't wait to see how he measures up against some of the other top PGs in the league.
He is underrated because he isn't selfish or flashy. He is a very good defender, great ball handler and finishes well around the rim.
His ceiling is higher than Lucas because he is taller and a better defender than Lucas ever was.
Also I agree about the steal percentage stat. Who cares? MSU plays a sagging man defense. Of course they aren't ever going to lead the nation is steals.
They hold opponents to a low fg% and have good rebounding magin. That is MSUs defensive philosophy.
No we aren't that low. Davis' claim of MSU being a lowly 294th nationally in steals pct. is off by 260 or 90%! We are actually 34th nationally in steals pct, according to statsheet.com. Or off by a mere 267 places and 27th nationally according to teamrankings.com. (one may be updated for tonight's games) Slight difference there, Seth.
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Agree - and he's an All-American. But they're aren't many of them. Look at the teams that have won the NC the past few years:
Marquis Teague - UK
Kemba Walker - UConn
John Scheyer - Duke
Ty Lawson - UNC
Mario Chalmers - Kansas
Taurean Green - Fla
Lawson and Chalmers were "true" PGs for sure. Walker and Scheyer were definitely not "true" PGs. Teague and Green are maybe somewhere in the middle.
Thanks. That seemed really off - Dawson gets 2 a game and Appling/Harris/Nix are also good at getting steals. That was a dumb comment.
I think he was talking about steal% defense because MSU ranks 301, i think you were looking at the offense and not the defense.
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No, I've got it right. The list you are seeing is incorrectly showed the teams is ascending, rather than descending order.
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Seth's comment on steals was total nonsense. This team steals the ball more than nearly every other Izzo team. Major difference this year. The guys at The Only Colors covered it in detail last week.
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I think this is more of an argument about what a true point guard is. Burke has all the characteristics of what you seem to think of as a "true PG." He just happens to be a good scorer, too. He's a great player. It's ok to admit that.
This. Burke is definitely a true PG. it's been awhile since anyone in conference averaged over 7 assists per game.
I saw someone mention Steve Nash. He is a hood shooter who puts up points as well as a ton of assists. Is he a true PG or not. How about Chrus Paul? Deron Williams?
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Great stuff from The Only Colors:
Love the passion in defense of Appling. He's ours, and we're not interested in trading -- period.
Maybe I haven't been paying attention or have just ignored it - but this is the first "Appling is a 2-guard" story I have read this year. I know it was a constant theme last year but the way he has been balling at PGthis season I thought it was a dead issue now.
I have really enjoyed watching his development. He sure looks like a point guard to me now. He hasn't been a problem. He has been the solution.
keith's very tough, maybe needs more cowbell?
Sometimes you marvel at some of the things Appling does. But if anybody says they don't hold their breath when he drives the lane or shoots is lying.
The bottom line is, if "Keith Appling isn't a PG" is our biggest issue right now, then we're in pretty good shape.
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