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Not me. These schools suck in football and bball, I don't care that Maryland might be decent most of the time in bball. No matter what they tell you, oh, it's about academics blah blah blah, no, it's not. It's about making money via BTN with these new markets. The tail is wagging the dog. Fuck this bullshit. Missouri, Virginia, Kansas, and maybe Pitt would all be better fits. Let's get this straight, as the fans of the BIG(+2), you are not wanted nor welcome MD&RU.
This post was edited by Ham Solo129364 20 months ago
Please list why those are better fits for the B1G and the CIC. If the answers are better football/basketball (or both) programs but are in the same state as a current B1G team and are not in the AAU please eliminate them from your list. Don't be like the inbred Alabama fans who can only view expansion in terms of football.
Congrats OP! Officially one of the most ignorant, horrid posts I've ever seen!
You talk about being competitive in sports then proceed to list absolute dumpster fire programs. Lol.
I like the addition of Maryland but i don't know a damn thing about Rutgers.
I have no idea if they even support their sporting teams. I know we've played them in football a handful of times and had a couple spectacular losses.
NYC media market. Also, I bet they will have better fan support now that they play in a real conference. They have always been the sleeping giant with the amount of talent in their state and being the only school.
We shall see.
Please list why you are happy about the MD/RU expansion. This is about money and potential viewing markets, even the MD officials admitted so. I don't actually want any of the schools that I listed, I wish they could stand pat, although I know that is hard/next to impossible.
I like the addition of UofM-Land, too. I hope Rutgers is not really the next school to join.
Athletically, sure, I couldn't care less about either team. Financially (which is obviously the biggest factor in play here) it looks like a good move. Academically, it's a good move. You dismissed the academic factor in your first post, but it's actually a rather important factor. Nebraska would not have gotten an invitation to join had they been booted from the AAU beforehand. The only thing I really like about the moves is I spend a lot of time in DC/Baltimore/NJ for work so I might finally get to see the BTN in the hotels and bars.
I didn't dismiss the academic factor, it is a good fit academically, but that's not the main factor Big Ten officials are considering, it's the financial/tv market factor like you stated. You're probably in the minority as far as Big Ten fans that will get extra benefits from these two teams being in the league.
I like both these additions. However, I will be annoyed if the B1G pushes any further south. No confederates please.
How is KU worse than Maryland football, how is Mizzou worse than the football or basketball programs of either MD or RU, how is Virginia worse than either academically? Again, I don't wan't any expansion but it seams to me these would have been better routes that the ones taken.
The only reason I'd ever want them is if it means we're going to play more in-conference games.
Logistics aside, I would like to see Syracuse and Pitt in the sports areas. I just like the match ups and rivalry options. But UMD makes sense for the tv money and overall package. Rutgers I am unsure of. Not a great reason nor any idea how they fit just entertainment value.
So I think the real question this whole thing creates is when the hell will Michigan finally face Wisconsin? (Not really, just something interesting I thought of.)
Aren't you not allowed to post in this thread since you don't support the addition? In fact, your original post is a contradiction of the entire purpose of this thread.
Yes. Lick my butt.
Of course it's not the main factor, the money is, I don't think anyone is refuting that. But the academics are a big factor still. I bet if you put two schools in the same new TV market, one is a better football brand, one is not, but the lesser brand is in the AAU and the other isn't, the lesser brand still gets the invite. As for me being in the minority for extra benefits, even without traveling to those TV markets, the rest of the B1G benefits. More money is still a good thing even if you don't feel it's enough of a factor for these moves. Plus the potential value the areas can bring in recruiting.
Other than just not liking these particular schools, I don't really see any other issues with it. It's not like the B1G is adding low brand-value schools from existing B1G TV and recruiting markets. So while these moves don't bring much brand value, I still think the good factors outweigh any bad factors.
edit: And btw, "Let's get this straight, as the fans of the BIG(+2), you are not wanted nor welcome MD&RU" is a pretty shitty attitude and you definitely don't share my opinion there. I'd rather you didn't try to represent the rest of the fan base.
This post was edited by TheGreenMist 20 months ago
I would rather have Boston College ... at least they have a hockey team and can contribute to the new B1G hockey league
Mizzou - Not that great. Biggest market is St Louis which would be on the low end of B1G markets and has more Nebraska fans than Mizzou fans. Also sports are average at best. Would rather add Rutgers, Maryland, Georgia Tech, and Virginia Tech over them. This is the only school you listed that I wouldn't totally be pissed about.
Kansas - almost totally worthless. Adds a market about the size of the Upper Peninsula. Would be the equivalent of adding Lake Superior State to the B1G. Sports programs suck other than basketball. LSSU would give us a decent hockey program, Kansas a good basketball program (both have about the same value).
Virginia - Umm really? I can't believe that you think that Virginia would be better in anyway shape or form than either Rutgers or Maryland. What market would they bring? Roanoke? Woohoo. They have a total enrollment of 15,000 and their athletic dept brings is just about no money. Virginia Tech would be a better add. Even adding Harvard makes more sense than Virginia. Better athletic school and on the same level in academics in a better city.
Pitt - Brings absolutely nothing to the table. A total 0. No money in sports or school, no market, bad sports, bad city, etc. Every B1G team would lose money by adding Pitt. Any school in the country would be better than adding Pitt.
Can we all at least agree that Rutgers and Maryland aren't good for the fans? I don't think anybody can actually be happy about this move from an entertainment point of view. These teams are just... bleh.
Also, if you think you hate me because I'm a jerk to all you Sparty fans, just know that I'm really a jerk to everybody so don't feel so bad.
This post was edited by ThoseWhoStay 20 months ago
Some of you people post like you will reap financial rewards from the new " markets" we will be in. I find that confusing. This move helps MSU fans in zero ways as far as I can tell.
Held it down for Monty
Held it down For Iz
Staying in NYC to go see a MSU v. Rutgers game? Two thumbs up. Beats the shit out of staying in Lincoln, NE or Fucking, Iowa.
Maryland is just money. More money = more facilities = better chance of competing with the SEC.
Until today, Maryland had decided to scrap 7 athletic teams because they couldn't afford them. Staying in compliance with Title IX is very expensive, when the only programs that make any money are football and men's basketball (and at many schools, only 1 of those programs makes money).
Most DI schools have to subsidize the athletic programs with money from the general fund (which comes from tuition or taxes). MSU will never have to cut programs, and will never worry about how to fund it's athletic teams or facilities.
And for a lot of us whose kids will probably not earn a football or basketball scholarship but may be good enough to play golf, tennis, soccer, water polo, crew, etc our increased athletic revenues might be enough to have our son/daughter/grandson/granddaughter earn a full scholarship to play at our Alma-mater, but don't let facts get in the way of a totally uninformed and irrational reaction.
You serious, Clark?
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