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I agree with Bayless.
How is it bad for the game?
Here's a couple tweets from him today
"Amused by some reactions to my ban-kicking column. Ppl are so afraid of change even if they know deep-down it makes so much sense."
"I've known hundreds of NFL players/coaches over the yrs and NOT ONE liked field goals playing such a crucial role in such a great game"
Rogue Leader= Obese coward who didn't attend MSU and has no college degree
Why do people always play the "afraid to change" card when people don't like unnecessary change? It has nothing to do with being afraid. I hate idiots who say that shit.
A player like a Steve Tasker is different from a place kicker. The difference is the physicality of the position that's being played. While Tasker primary duty might have been on special teams, without looking it up, he no doubt also had a regular position, like a back up safety or RB. He might of made the team because of his special team talents, but he still would have had more roles on the team if he had to. Mel Gray only ran back kickoffs, but he also had to line up as wide receiver when called upon. You can't do that with kickers, especially field goal kickers.
I'm not real familiar with rugby, but from what I gather from your posts, 'dudes still need to know how to kick', I read that as position players also better know how to kick as well as other things. Maybe I'm reading more into than what you meant, but it doesn't seem like there are kicking specialist that do nothing but kick.
I guess I wouldn't think it's a bad idea to change some of the rules to somehow have kickers have more a physical role like everyone else on the team. From a layman's viewpoint, if you don't have to take a shower at the end of a game that you played in, I have a hard time thinking you're a football player. If you do your job right, you don't even get touched. That's not football.
I guess it matters what your preference is. I'm not a fan of watching teams drive the ball to the 35 yard line and sit on the ball for 3 minutes so a specialist who hasn't otherwise been involved in the game can trot out and kick the ball between two poles. UofM beat us this year without setting foot in the end zone. Did they win? Sure. Was it the kind of football I like to watch? No. I like to watch running backs run, QBs pass, receivers catch and defenders have a chance to stop them.
Again, I guess it's a matter of preference. Sure, last second field goals can be exciting, but the make percentage is so high it's getting close to a sure thing - which makes for a lot of boring and safe coaching decisions.
It's not like adjustments to the goal posts are unheard of:
Field Goals. Goal posts, originally placed on the goal line, were moved back 10 yards to the rear of the end zone in 1927 in an effort to avert injuries by ball carriers or other players running into the uprights. That move, of course, increased the distance for field goal tries by 10 yards. In 1959, in a successful attempt to bring the field goal back into college prominence, the distance between the goal posts was increased nearly 5 feet to a width of 23 feet, 4 inches. Because of a proliferation of successful field goals over the next three decades, the rule makers in 1988 disallowed the kicking tee for field goal and conversion attempts, and in 1991 returned the goal post width to 18 feet, 6 inches.
I agree with a lot of your points but come on, how many times have you seen a FG kicker make an open field tackle? To suggest that these guys aren't athletic or athletes and can only kick is disingenuous. I love the drama of a FG kicker lining up with the game on the line, I think it brings an added dimension to the game.
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Whoa...take it easy there guy.
Fair enough, but I don't see anything wrong with the kicking game. Still looks the same to me as it always has. Some guys miss occasionally, adding to the drama.
I have nothing against adjustments if necessary, but I still don't believe the kicking game "as is" is bad for the game of football.
It's a stupid idea because it fundamentally changes the game of football. Football involves kicking. Always has, always should.
Only if that includes the dudes in white trench coats that wave the little flags when a kick scores...
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The rosters used to be a bit smaller too. Almost every player (at least starters) on an NFL team is a specialist. None of them are every down players, and haven't been for decades. There are nickel backs, 3rd down rushing linemen, guys that only play on the goal line, etc. I don't see the problem with punters or kickers.
No, Skip Bayless wants to piss people off so they'll pay attention to him.
Those dudes rule, and maybe they could widen the hash marks simply for kickers so that they're faced with more tough angle kicks. Or use Aussie rules and line up the kick with where the player crosses the goal line or something like that. But removing completely? That's stupid and not even worth discussing.
I think that every time a guy in basketball dunks, he should get 10 outs home run derby style and each bomb is worth a point. Don't be so resistant to change people!!!!
If you still watch First Take you should be shot out into space.
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I hate this idea. Gonna make Torrey smith wear weighted shoes because he's too fast? Make the ball heavier because Tom Brady throws too hard? Take away headsets because coaches talk to often?
Its not broke, don't fix it
The top nine seasons for field goal percentage in NFL history have been...wait for it...the last nine consecutive seasons.
Ass Dan, If you're such a traditionalist do you support college going back to the five foot wider goalposts they used before 1991?
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I think there should be no uprights...with the cross bar being narrowed a bit. Make the refs job a little harder and more subjective in judging whether it was good or not.
Yeah, and in the Olympics, swimmers, runners, skiers, etc. continue to get better each year too. So what?
Kickers have talent and have athletic abilities. Not saying they don't. It's just their talents don't translate well in football. They do translate well to soccer and that's a different skillset. American football players probably suck at soccer - if soccer games where decided by a specialist that only came into the match to tackle someone and did nothing else, then people would complain that the talent these guys have don't translate to the game.
And WAY more times than not, kickers miss those tackles. It's kinda like having pitchers bat in baseball - sure once in a great while, they hit a home run, but more times than not, they're an easy out.
I'm not sure I'd go as far as Bayless goes to reform field goals, but I would like to see a regular football play instead of an extra point.
Except you're tuning in to see the swimmers, skiers, etc. in the first place. A lot of people, me included, don't tune in to football games hoping to see a wicked kicker's duel.
You're calling it a kicker's duel but its not - more than likely its a defensive game and like it or not kicking is part of the game and creates its own drama. A kicker's duel would be dudes lining up on every other possession - and, actually that would be kinda cool.
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