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draft position, right?
I think if the season ended right now, they'd have the #4 pick. Whether they have the #1 or #10 pick, they are going to basically take one of the top two tackles available in the draft...true? Or no?
Also, any chance that the Lions are able to sign Jake Long from the Dolphins? Apparently, the Dolphins don't want to resign him and let him go in free agency. If that is the case, do the Lions pick another O-Tackle or does that change things up for them? Do they then go with a cornerback?
It seems as if the draft is not as dynamic as in the past...
I guarantee you the Lions won't take one of the tackles due to having no playmakers outside DT on defense as well as drafting Reiff last year.
Reports out of Allen Park say the Lions are going to sign Long, trade down with St. Louis to pick up an extra first round pick and draft 2 OTs.
Word is they are going to run a 4 Tackle package next year with Long, Reiff and their 2 OT draft picks. Backus, Cherlius, Hilliard and Fox are set to back them up or step into the starting lineup if one of the rookies can't fit the bill. There have also been whispers of a special 8 Tackle package that might come out a few times next year.
yes...picking a player and drafting him no matter who is on the board is EXACTLY what Mayhew and Schwartz have done thusfar. brilliant observation.
Is Jake Long that bad or are the Dolphins that stupid. If you have a good or better OT you don't let him leave via FA.
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I think what the Lions really need is a wide reciever. Its a shame we can't have 5 Backus's to stick on the OL. Oh and Scott Mitchel back too!!
All I ask is they draft a guy with no red flags. If a guy gets hurt in college, he will probably get hurt in the pros like Best and Broyles. I mean, it only took Broyles a few games to get hurt. Both are good players, but there were red flags. I don't know about Titus, but I'm guessing there was some red flags there psychologically they could of picked up on. I like Suh, but they had to know some of this was coming based on stories from his Nebraska days. In his case, I think it is worth it. But yeah, less chances, more guys who have a higher percentage of working out. And defense comes first next year. I think if I learned anything this year it is one side of the ball can't get it all done.
I hope they draft another tackle too, and then sit him behind 2 starters who he is better than and use him as a tight end. Much like the Pistons use of Andre Drummond and Jason Maxiell.
because he was a number one pick before the lockout, they will have to give him a record contract to keep him (like the lions did with calvin last offseason). hes good, its just the money isnt
To be fair to Broyles, the ACL he hurt was not the one he hurt in college and apparently he was 100% on that knee and looked good on the field. ACL injuries are no big deal long term these days. Best is another story but the Lions do need a speed back. Titus Young just pisses me off and has been a huge contributor to the mess this team is in right now.
Obviously DB is their biggest need. I'm not draft nerd but Milliner out of Alabama seems to be the best pick at that position.
Injuries have really taken a toll and his play has declined but he's going to command a huge contract and The Lions just won't have the cap space to sign an injury waiting to happen player, they already have that in Louis Delmas.
I am fine with trading down. I am not super big on CJ Milner. Although dominate at times he loses focus as well. I think. There is late 1st t early 2nd round talent at DB this year. I think Teo is going the first 2 picks so no reason to even think about him.
The Lions could get into the first two picks
Not a chance. No way Jacksonville or Kansas City wins out and knowing the Lions, they'll find a way to win one more game this year (Honestly, they should destroy an awful Arizona team next week)
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WAY too many holes on this team to target any position. I'd agree with the comment about red flags though. Need good healthy players with a good head.
They'll take lattimore ...
I realize it is not the same knee...but so far healthy, he looks great. So good, you have to wonder why all these other teams passed on him to the point where we got him in the second round. I'm not mad at the guy, it is not his fault. But now you have a guy who has had season ending injuries two years in a row. How confident are you that he is going to play 16 games next year?
I just think the Lions should have learned from the Best thing to not take chances on guys coming off of serious injuries. And in my opinion, an ACL is a serious injury long-term. Seems like for every success story you can tell me there is another where the guy never fully recovers. Honestly, I haven't researched it or have the exact numbers,
With all of the options out there in the draft and so many needs on defense, why take a chance on a guy coming off of a big injury in college. I realize sometimes it works out, like with Janoris Jenkins for the Rams this year. Still, at the time I was totally fine with not drafting him because there was a huge risk with his background. I'm all for drafting that DB out of Alabama. I wouldn't mind Te'o either. Sounds like with the new CBA, getting a top few pick isn't the financial detriment it used to be.
ACL injuries do not have to have a long term impact. Adrian Peterson blew out an ACL and he's on target for 2000 yards this year. There's a long list of athletes who have had nearly 100% recovery from this.
An acl and mcl for Peterson.
Peterson isn't a human being. It's hard to use him as an example
Honey badger would fit right in with the rest of the tree smokers on this team. Even more than college it's a game of attrition. Try to trade down and get as many young guys as you can. This also allows you to sit some of the first team guys when they drop passes (Pettigrew),or act like an @#$%#clown in the end zone (Scheffler). But then you have to know how to spot and develop talent. When you constantly trade up to get a big name or sure thing, you never have to answer for the lower round picks that fail, since you traded them. General managers have used this trick for years in Detroit to stay on the Ford payroll.
Good point and cut Delmas.....
I don't think he's talking about re-injuries, he is talking about players that have a history of being injured....
I understand that. You make a full recovery. Here is what I am saying:
I think the Lions still draft best available. Who would you rather take?
Player A: Graded out at an 89. Never missed a down due to injury in college.
Player B: Graded out at an 89. Tore his ACL last year of college.
I am not trying to be a downer, I want the Lions to win very badly. I just think the Lions could have made a better choice. I am not revising what I think now that I've seen the results. I said the same thing on draft day. I said the same thing when Best was drafted. And if they are going to take the chance, at least do it for a position that was perceived as a need, which Broyles was not.
This may sound crazy, but part of why I think this is because the team is the Detroit Lions. They are cursed. They should not tempt fate. I think this team was close to being good and I think if they drafted better than they have been we would be where we should be. I think there are holes in their evaluation process.
Thanks...yeah that is more or less what I am talking about. I don't think he is going to necessarily tear his ACL again. I just think a guy who has had a devastating injury is more likely to have another injury than a player who has not had any.
Really, even dumber was the Best pick. Excerpts from Best's Wiki:
On January 15, 2009 Best underwent surgery to tighten a ligament that had been injured when he dislocated his left elbow against Colorado State on September 27, 2008. This was followed up by foot surgery on January 23 to relieve irritation that was caused when Best bruised his foot halfway through the 2008 season.
Best was injured during the second quarter of Cal's November 7 matchup against Oregon State. In the process of scoring a rushing touchdown, he hurdled a defender into the end zone and was accidentally pushed by a second Oregon State defender in mid-air, causing him to land on the back of his head with his helmet coming off. The play resulted in a concussion for Best. After a 13-minute game delay, Best was taken off the field on a stretcher to the Highland General Hospital in Oakland. This was his second concussion in two weeks, following a mild concussion received the previous week against Arizona State. He was released the next day. and did not play the following week's game against Arizona, although he appeared as an honorary team captain. Best would miss the rest of the regular season.
Yes, Broyles from what I know was only injured with the ACL, but I still think it makes him more likely to be injury prone than a player who has never suffered a serious injury like that.
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