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WASHINGTON (AP) Breaking new ground, the U.S. Education Department is telling schools they must include students with disabilities in sports programs or provide equal alternative options. The directive, reminiscent of the Title IX expansion of athletic opportunities for women, could bring sweeping changes to school budgets and locker rooms for years to come.
Schools would be required to make "reasonable modifications" for students with disabilities or create parallel athletic programs that have comparable standing as mainstream programs...
From Yahoo! News: WASHINGTON (AP) — Breaking new ground, the U.S. Education Department is telling schools they must include students with disabilities in sports programs or provide equal alternative options. The directive, reminiscent of the Title IX expansion of athletic opportunities for women, could bring sweeping changes to school budgets and locker rooms for years to come.
This post was edited by Rodeo Burger 15 months ago
Well most sports are pay to play anyway so if they pay they can get a team together.
Find me schools that have the money to do this.
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I don't get it. If the team cuts anyway what's the big deal?
My kid is a freakin genius, but he can't shoot for crap and he knows he would be cut from the basketball team if he tried out. As long as he is cut the same as the short bus kids, I am fine with that. If the short bussers get on the team but the sucky don't, that is stupid.
I have never met a parent that did not say this about their child(ren).
But taxpayers do..
Your kid is out of luck.
The kids that make the team, obviously get to play on a team.
The kids that are disabled get to have a team of their own that is "of the same profile" as the other team.
Non-disabled kids who don't make the team will have to wait until the next round of brilliant ideas before they too get a medal.
You don't understand how this works.
So are schools going to be required to make football fields accessible to wheel chairs? Those things don't roll very good on grass, ya know.
Oh wait, that's not reasonable. So where do you draw the line on what's reasonable or not? And who is to judge that?
This post was edited by J T 15 months ago
The MHSAA and other state High School Associations will get sued constantly and eventually they will probably form "Unified" teams from districts to face other Districts "Unified" teams in the whatever sports they decide.
Most schools already make reasonable modifications for students with special needs when it comes to sports; such as my local high school football team that let's an individual practice and dress with the team. This really won't affect any school because the population of special needs students is much less than the general population, and then you have to take into account which special needs students want to play a high school sport. After that you may have one or two students, that you can easily let onto a team but take it easier on them.
Screw this! Im going to protest this in front of a politician with secret service protection....oh wait there is a law against that.
The indoctrinated will no longer be able to deny it, only defend it.
This is the law of unintended consequences. Well meaning people set up fake scenarios where a handicapped kid can do something like score a touchdown just to give the kid an experience of a lifetime. It tugs at our heartstrings and makes us all feel good to see the pure joy on the faces of those children as they experience their moment in the spotlight. Everyone agrees that this is a good thing.
The Special Olympics are also good thing and the experiences there are real as they compete against kids of their own level. This is the venue in which they have the opportunity to compete for real. Regular schools are not the place for this to be done.
Equally well meaning but foolish people see the joy on the child's face as they participate in the faked event and think it an injustice that other handicapped kids are deprived of that joy so they demand equal access. They don't stop to think that other than the Special Olympics, the scenarios are faked so the kids can succeed, nor do they stop to think that there aren't enough handicapped kids in the schools to form any teams of their own. Not only that, but these foolish people think these kids deserve a real chance to go out for the team even if they just get cut.
What these fools need is a dose of reality. They are simply too stupid to realize that, had the handicapped kid been put in the game to play for real without the opposition knowing about it, the kid would have been hammered into the ground and probably seriously injured. Nor do they think about the fact that if these kids are going out for a team for real, that nobody is going to play patty-cakes with them, they are going to hammer them. To give these fools a dose of reality, they should be made to go out for their local high school football team so that they can experience being hammered into the ground first hand. Maybe then they will keep their dumb ass mouths shut.
Reminds me of that stupid VW commercial where that fool dad doesn't know how to throw a baseball but thinks he can teach his kid to throw a baseball. Yeah it's funny to watch, but that dad and these dumb ass fools are one in the same person.
Give them NOTHING but take from them EVERYTHING.
The history of Title IX shows that "reasonable accomodation" has a very different meaning to activist and judges than it does to someone with common sense.
Title IX proponents wanted more women playing sports. They got that.
Then, over the years, they wanted an equal number of men and women scholarships. That meant cutting scholarships for men in non revenue sports, and then creating womens teams that offer scholarships to women that have never played the sport before joining the team in college.
The reason the Big Ten looked to add Texas, and the reason the Big East added San Diego State is largely due to the costs incurred in maintaining compliance with Title IX.
There is no reason to think that this mandate won't be equally disastrous.
Exactly. As an official I have officiated kids with Downs, Blind Kids, and other physical disabilities. Blind kids Wrestle all the time, there is just a special rule where the opposing wrestler has to stay in contact with the blond kid at all times. Coaches usually do a very good job in including "special needs" kids and putting them in matches against other kids that may have special needs, or against kids they have that are of high character and won't make a spectacle of the thing.
who ever made this decision clearly watches too much "Glee"....
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Yeah Title IX is horrible. There are a lot of sports that don't even have enough scholarships to cover a starting lineup because of the change (Baseball, Wrestling). But we have Womens Field Hockey!
Pretty soon it will be some kid with no athletic ability starting at QB because of the mentality you state. I agree %100.
And when does it equal out? We allow girls to try out for football and Wrestling, however a guy can't play HS Volleyball or Gymnastics. It seems like we allow girls to try and play mens sports but not vice versa.
I thought that's what tennis was for?
"losing Caleb Benenoch is a blow that Dantonio will never recover from. Izzo has lost it as well. Hoke and Beilein own the state."
See Casey Martin in golf as something being a reasonable accommodation. That would be the farthest you could go. In football I could not think of a reasonable accommodation.
Agree, and like I mentioned in Wrestling and Blind kids, the opposing Wrestler has to stay in contact. Football they cannot due to it without changing the game. I can't think of rule changes or exceptions in Basketball, Baseball, Hockey etc.. that will not ruin the competition. And lets not fool outselves, even though it is HS sports it is still about the competition. It is when we learn to win and lose and deal with it appropriately.
Yea. I think people are flying off the handle a little bit.
It would have to be this. It would be ridiculous to have two of the same teams for every sport, and they wouldn't even have enough kids. They'll have to pull from a bunch of schools.
And seriously, this seems like something that they're enacting to pat themselves on the back. Like someone else said, they're usually manufactured situations so everyone can have a heartwarming moment, which this goes well beyond.
When my older boy was playing Midget hockey we were at a Tournament in Cleveland and one of the teams had a girl on it. She was a damn good hockey player and was able to compete as far as skills go, but our boys gave her no quarter. She was checked hard and every time it took her a few seconds to get up.
My son was a big boy and went about 275lbs at the time and didn't stop to think about her being a girl and just obliterated her with an open ice hit where she was skating with the puck and with her head down. it was a clean hit that probably would have hurt anyone, so the ref couldn't call anything. She had to be helped off the ice and wasn't able to play for the rest of the tournament. I think they wound up taking her to the hospital later because people at other games were talking about the girl that got injured.
Immediately after the game, the girl's mom and dad were going ballistic and I almost got into a fist fight with the dad over it. They were both yelling at me asking me if I felt good about watching my son beating up on defenseless girls and don't I teach my boy not to hit girls, blah, blah, blah... I asked them why they expected their girl to play midget hockey with 16 & 17 year old boys and not get hit? Apparently, in their league nobody hits this girl. So, I have experienced first hand how foolish thinking can get kids seriously hurt.
A 275 lb son playing hockey? You're telling us that he was 20 lbs heavier than Zdeno Chara?
Did he stay out there for 10 second shifts?
This post was edited by Chitown_Badger 15 months ago
I have a buddy that played D1 college hockey. And Travel Midget hockey is not joke. What did the parents expect with their girl playing? Your kid lays off that hit and she scores and the team losses, because a girl is on the team? Makes no sense. Don't play your kid if your not willing to have them play the right way.
I had a kid that pinned a kid with downs last year in a JV match. The kid that won started crying because he felt bad. I took him aside and told him that if he did anything other then go out there and wrestle to win he would be doing the kid with downs a disservice. The kid who won handled it right, he didn't show boar or do anything stupid.
When you are on the field, ice, mat or court everyone is equal. That is why they have separate levels in Freshman, JV and Varsity.
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