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People on both sides of this recruiting rankings pissing match are partially correct. Stars don't mean much until you do something on a college field to back them up. HOWEVER, a kid with more stars is more often than not going to have more potential than a kid with less stars. Diamonds in the rough don't come along every day.
Recruiting rankings are different than team rankings
There isn't a cut off at 25 between being ranked and unranked
Rogue Leader= Obese coward who didn't attend MSU and has no college degree
I'm guessing Rivals expends a tremendous amount of money and staff resources to compile their JUCO ranking. You think if K-State had Alabama's pedigree they'd bother recruiting JUCOs?
I knew Snyder was a great coach but I'm even more amazed he's able to take talentless kids who show up in the summer and turn them into quality BCS starters in a couple of months.
I am gravely disappointed. Again you have made me unleash my dogs of war.
Okay let's look at individual players:
2011: 61st, 13 3 star, avg star 2.5
2010: 99th, 5 3 star, avg star 2.29
2009: 112th, 1 3 star, avg star 2.05
2008: 45th, 5 4 star, 16 3 star, avg star 2.76
They have 5 4 star recruits on their entire team. Their average ranking the last 4 classes is over 70. They have 0 5 star recruits.
Not going to breakdown Oregon but they have recruited better than MSU, they have approximately 7 5 stars on their team, maybe 30 4 stars and their average recruiting ranking is in the 13 range as opposed to MSU's average of around 30. However Miami (FL) averages a top 10 class, as has UCLA, Tennesee, and North Carolina. Lot of good it's done for those schools. Even Notre Dame only has one good year despite a top 10 average ranking.
So you are saying that recruiting rankings matter, but they are incorrect? How is that possible?
A kid like Damion Terry has a season like he's had this year. At MSU that will get him a bump up to a 4 star. If he was an OSU recruit he'd be a 5 star easy. That's what I don't like about the recruiting rankings.
Oh hey, another recruiting rankings discussion without a basic understanding of statistics?
Sign me up!!
I think JUCOs are the x factor in recruiting. The SEC and Big 12 use them alot more than the Big 10 does. Even Bama supplements its roster now and then with some jucos if it needs to fill some gaps. K St would be no where near where they are if not for having some JUCOs. JUCOs can help sooner in most cases. It may help the mid to lower teir Big 10 schools to go the JUCO route more often but there are not alot of JUCO schools in the midwest like there are in the SEC and Big 12 region.
I think MSU used to rely more on JUCOs but have gotten away from it in the Dantonio era. I think 2 or 3 a year would not be a bad idea going forward. Starting with Peko. Fonoti turned out pretty well. Maybe we should be looking for a couple JUCO OLmen.
They have 1 5-star, LB Arthur Brown, who transferred from Miami.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
Ummm ... aren't there four remaining unbeatens?
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