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is that officials aren't calling enough blocks. There are too many times when an official is deciding between a charge or a block will swallow the whistle if it's not a charge. In other words, if a charge isn't called, nothing is. What this does is provide no real penalty for trying to draw the charge. The players know that if they try and draw the charge and don't succeed, there is no penalty. They need to start assessing fouls for more charges.
Or that guys like TV Teddy see a potential charge call as an opportunity to make a really exaggerated gesture when calling the foul, resulting in more camera time.
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I agree. If it's close it should always be a block.
In a perfect world there should be 3-1, blocks to charges. and the help defender sliding under a player in the air should be a technical foul.
I was discussing this with a couple people yesterday. I don't care so much about more blocking fouls, but I am very concerned by the injury risk from trying to draw charges on airborne players. I would like to see less emphasis on player control and more on player advantage. In short, allow contact from stationary or near stationary defenders with their arms straight up in a fashion that makes it difficult to put the ball in the hoop. AKA defending the basket. More no-calls on those plays. But give no such leeway to players with arms down not making any kind of play on the ball. Those plays are too dangerous to allow defenders any benefit of the doubt.
On a more outlandish note, I also, or alternatively, would consider making the charge only count 1/2 a personal. When you only get five fouls, getting that charge changes the course of a game when the best players are forced to the bench for reasons rarely related to how they play the game. Take away much of the incentive, and maybe guys will get back to just playing some defense.
This post was edited by Dolph Ziggler 13 months ago
This. TV Teddy wants to make as many gyrations and gestures as possible.
A man's gotta eat!
Yup. and even in games where the TV isnt important, u better believe the refs are much happier making the home fans cheer with a dramatic charge call rather than making them boo with a no-call or block. just the way it is
If a defender has established his position prior to the offensive player making a move, then call it a charge. If the defender jumps into position half a second before the offensive player makes contact with them, then it should be a block. It isn't hard. There really shouldn't be a lot of charges based on the amount of movement on defense.
I hate the charge call for the most part. Sliding over in front of someone then falling over is not real defense IMO.
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This might sound dumb, but if you are standing there like you are setting a pick, (hands over your package, standing straight up) no charge should be called. You are in no way defending and you are not allowed to set picks as a defender.
Right on. To add to this, at least half the time the "defender" is already falling backwards before the offensive player even makes contact.
Agree 100%. It's BS to be rewarded for standing there and 'taking' a charge. You should be required to actually try and defend. If you get run over then it's a charge, but the charge call as used now is just a flop 90%+ of the time.
The problem is that--particularly in college basketball--the charge has evolved from a penalty for an out-of-control offensive player to a bullshit defensive strategy. Jump in front of a player at the last second, put all your weight on your heels, and fall over when a stiff breeze hits you.
Watch Gary Harris' late layup-and-foul from Sunday, and tell me why the hell LeVert and Robinson ended up on the floor.
It won't happen, but I really wish they would eliminate all charging calls inside the paint.
The problem is the circle college basketball added under the hoop. It's completely gotten rid of charges/blocks based on being set, and rather focuses on your position on the court.
The way it is currently called is eliminating the drive to the basket. Guys are now sliding underneath dunkers on 2 on 1 breaks. Game is turning into a 3 point shooting/flopping contest.
Anyone. Anyplace. Anytime.
Bo Ryan and John Bee Line both heartily endorse this development.
"Drawing a charge" has become more of a defensive strategy for both of them than "defending".
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I have no idea why some people call the charge the greatest play in basketball.
I really hate it when a guy driving toward the basket passes it and then runs into someone who slid over after the fact to draw the charge. There is no way in hell that is a charge. It's a block or no call 10/10 times IMO. Worst call in basketball.
This post was edited by Raytooth Morgan 13 months ago
Those people are all relatives or friends of TV Ted.
This...I said it when the circle got put in. Refs are just going to get lazier and just look at where the feet are.
Although on one of the offensive fouls called against us on Sunday, I swear the UM guy was in the circle (just to the side of the basket instead of in front) and they still called it against us.
I agree that the help defender coming over to specifically draw a charge has completely ruined college basketball. Refs reward shitty defense. Players are taught that move too. No way in hell is that a natural reaction on how to defend. Pathetic.
Was at an AAU tourney at MSU this last weekend. Saw fourth graders doing this.
See Trey Burke on Sunday. He did that exact same thing. And this was after we got our 4th offensive foul called.
Normally, I wouldn't have cared one iota had that been a no call but after the BS we went through, I was pissed.
The only real charge call should ironically be what Zeller drew the "and one" on against us. The offensive player trying to go through the primary defender (normally with the aid of their shoulder or elbow). Everything else is weak flopping.
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