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Obviously its tough to do, but I never really thought MSU was more than an elite8 possibly FF team until yesterday. One of the most athletic starting 5s in the game, and MSU finally found a pure shooter in Harris so defense\es can't pack it in. Payne is becoming one of the biggest matchup issues for opposing teams in the conference.
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I agree. There is no dominant team in the nation this yr (i.e. no 09 NC or '12 Kentucky). Wouldn't surprise me in the least if MSU won it, or Indy, or any of the top 10 really.
OSU got to the F4 last year basically playing 7 players. Obviously the 2 keys to the run besides coaching and matchups would be injuries and fouls. We definitely have enough talent to do it. We need Valentine and Trice to improve defensively.
I am starting to get excited watching this team. I think we still still have yet to see a game where we get even play from everyone. We can't have key players just decided to disappear. We're getting closer every game though.
You're in college. The window of opportunity to drink and do drugs and take advantage of young girls is getting smaller by the day.
Looking for a blowout against ILL.
What makes me excited is that this team is putting it together relatively early in the season. Is my observation accurate that most Izzo teams start hitting the accelerator two weeks from now in mid-February? They seem to be avoiding the typical mid-season wall that in the past have brought on the doubters.
This. I agree with Izzo 100 percent in this regard. We'll learn more about this team Thursday than we did on Sunday.
Win at home against OSU, on the road against Wisky, and on the road at Indiana. They are starting to click.
The one thing I still worry about is if they can score in tough situations. Who is the go to guy that gets the ball, down 2 with a minute to go?
The team is getting better, maybe more clearly and steadily than any recent Spartan team. But they need to take a few more steps before I think they can win it all. Obviously, I think they can do that, but it isn't guaranteed, and some amount of luck is almost always involved in a championship run.
While Dawson and Payne have started to light it up, and Nix continues to improve, and Harris having more experience, I think the difference between a solid run in March, and them being a true championship caliber team is having one more guy step up. Maybe it's Valentine tightening his D or starting to shoot well from outside. Maybe it's Gauna being able to spell the bigs for 8 to minutes a game and adding an offensive dynamic with a 15 footer. Maybe it's Costello just coming in and being a beast with rebounding, defense, and violent fouls for a few minutes. But I really think someone outside of the rotation needs to contribute, or one of the low minute guys needs to expand their role for this team get to that last level. I trust the head coach to make this happen if it's at all possible, he's got a decent track record.
They're looking pretty consistent. Hopefully we don't have more players like Morgan/Summers disappear right when we need them.
Fortunately I think the inconsistency at the beginning of the year has made these guys much more mentally tough than those past teams.
So its very possible. I wonder how likely would it be to have multiple B1G teams in the FF...?
I'm laughing at the image of Brandon Kearney watching MSU play in a championship game from his couch.
Every year there are about 10ish teams with a shot. My order would be something like...
6. Michigan State
9. Ohio State
12. Miami (FL)
This would be my list based on experience in the tournament (Florida, Louisville) PG play (Mich, Louisville, Cuse) coaching (MSU, Duke, Kansas) and just pure talent (Indiana). The backend of that list would require some real shockers but some of those teams have played pretty good. Miami shouldn't really be there but they beat Duke by about 30 which has to be worth something.
Michigan State University is the university of Michigan
It all depends on our draw come tourney time.
Funny how you have IU at number 1. I am just not impressed with them on a neutral court. Also in a close game down the stretch, they will have to put the ball in Hull's hands vs. Yogi the freshmen. MSU played some terrible perimeter D on IU yesterday. A team that can limit Hulls and Zeller on a neutral court, which there are many. Olidipo won't get away with half the stuff he did yesterday. Crean while I like him is no Izzo, so IU definitely would not be that high for me. We have yet to see how IU is going to respond to their toughest road games in conference.
Seriously? Appling will have the ball.
Wow, I guess you haven't seen Applying play this year.
In a beer league... I'd hope they'd win something better than the Natty. This team at a minimum has the talent to win the Magic Hat 9.
No way, dude. Two Hearted Ale!
"Thank you. That is great weight off me mind"
I've always loved the pieces. We just need to clean up the lazy passes, bad decision making, and defensive lapses. I couldn't believe how easy it was for IU to just blow right by us several times throughout the game yesterday. Hell, even Zeller got loose from behind the arc for an easy drive or two in a critical spot. If we can clean up those defensive lapses, we win yesterday on the road against a team I believe is a title contender. So, bottom line, I think we have the potential to win it all. It's not as far fetched as it might have been when we were struggling to pull away from Louisiana Lafayette, OU, Bowling Green, Nebraska, Iowa, and Penn State. We're playing much better basketball. Just gotta sustain it, take care of Illinois and Minnesota, and avoid a bad loss at Purdue before the big showdown against Michigan.
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One troubling thing has been scoring down the stretch in tight games, especially on the road. @Minnesota we didn't score in like the last 5 minutes and they went on a huge run to close the game and @IU we didn't score again after Harris' dunk with like 3:20 to go. I think this team has the pieces and the talent is perhaps the best since the 2004-2005 team with Ager, Brown, and Davis then now Dawson, Payne, and Harris. I think it's going to come down to Gauna, Valentine, and Costello stepping up and becoming a legitimate part of the 8-man rotation and the other two providing quality minutes off the bench. Every successful MSU team has had one of their bench guys step up in March and this year could be a year where Michigan State truly might be the most talented team in the country and could win it all.
standard -1 for "natty" - is it so much harder to type "title"? or "win it all?"
Pretty solid team all around, as long as they keep up the chemistry. Appling has the potential of going crazy in the tournamnet.
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